bottom line is, you're 3rd from bottom.
Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [21st - 24th September 2012]
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bottom line is, you're 3rd from bottom.
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Couldn't you guys after the 3rd or 4th exchange just agree to disagree? Just throwing it out there
Other things happened in the game too. Saurez is going down too easily and is going to cost us in the long run.
Other things happened in the game too. Saurez is going down too easily and is going to cost us in the long run.Couldn't you guys after the 3rd or 4th exchange just agree to disagree? Just throwing it out there
Aye, to me watching it live and then again on MOTD it looked like Evans got the ball, reading Neville's column on Sky he thinks otherwise and then on MOTD you've got Ljungberg, Lawrenson and Murray all agreeing the ref got all the major decisions correct including that penalty incident, agree to disagree.
It looked like simultaneous ball and foot to me, which is going to be nigh on impossible to be given as a penalty if seen as such. In fact the contact at that point was the tiniest toe scuff on the side of Suarez' boot. The big contact was when Evans' knee came across, however he'd already won the ball prior to that. Also before the knee came across Suarez was half way into his barrel roll neck breaking to the ground.
That's how it looked to me anyway.
Couldn't you guys after the 3rd or 4th exchange just agree to disagree? Just throwing it out there
lol i was only replying to being asked why i stated things as fact (which are actual fact) kinda snowballed from there tbh.
that's because that's what happened.
Did you not watch Sky's post game anaylsis? As I've said several times, they zoomed in on the incident and showed very clearly that Evans didn't touch the ball - not before kicking Suarez or simultaneously.
The problem is that Man Utd won even though they played badly, so there's not really much to say is there? I don't even remember them having a clear cut chance, the Rafael goal was a bit of a wondergoal from a half chance, and the penalty was pretty routine as well.
I can't remember Man Utd having any other real opportunities.
The issue is that Liverpool had about 5 clear cut chances and about 5 half chances and converted none of them, and they still think it's the referee's fault which is what's baffling most of the non Liverpool fans.
Who knows though, maybe they'll do what Arsenal did last season and have a **** start but play well towards the middle/end of the season. It's difficult to see that happening though as they don't really have a player like Van Persie to carry them. I could see the Gerrard of two or three seasons ago being able to carry them, but I don't think he's got enough left in the tank nowadays. He's still a great player but I don't think he can play every game of the season do everything like he used to.
Yes I did. Still looked like simuntaneous ball and foot to me.
I think the comments on the Sky coverage were because G. Nev was trying to be seen as impartial because he's obviously still a United fan, and Redknapp is unashamedly biased towards Liverpool anyway.
I hate Lawrenson as a pundit these days, but he is ex Liverpool himself and seemed to be pretty unbiased about it.
Whichever way you want to look at it though, it was pretty much impossible for the ref to give a penalty for it.
I would suggest an eye test then
And I've not gone of comments from anybody - I went off Sky's replay that showed Evans not getting the ball. Also, I've not even claimed it should have been a pen or criticised the ref for that incident (I even said that when watching it live it's impossible to tell who got the ball) - I've only responded to people wrongly claiming Evans got the ball.
edit: I love the way you're trying to claim that Neville only said it was a pen to try and be impartial but Lawrenson (who's always very critical of Liverpool) claiming it wasn't a pen was being unbiased
You can't have it both ways.
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I would suggest an eye test then
And I've not gone of comments from anybody - I went off Sky's replay that showed Evans not getting the ball. Also, I've not even claimed it should have been a pen or criticised the ref for that incident (I even said that when watching it live it's impossible to tell who got the ball) - I've only responded to people wrongly claiming Evans got the ball.
edit: I love the way you're trying to claim that Neville only said it was a pen to try and be impartial but Lawrenson (who's always very critical of Liverpool) claiming it wasn't a pen was being unbiased
I don't really know much about Lawrenson being critical of Liverpool, sorry. I wasn't trying to claim anything either if you read it again. Lawrenson to me just comes across as if he doesn't give a **** anymore though so it gives the impression that he's more impartial.
You asked if I'd seen the post game analysis. To me the analysis includes the comments from the pundits.
I wasn't trying to link one pundit to another, just giving my impressions of them all, so I don't really know what you're trying to say "You can't have it both ways" for? There aren't two ways for me to have?
You can tell sometimes that Neville is biting his tongue a bit though and saying what he should say rather than what he wants to say. It's quite funny really
I asked if you saw the post game anaylsis because Sky put any doubt over who got the ball to bed. The replay was very clear - Evans didn't get the ball, he only caught Suarez.
As for the comment about not having it both ways. You're trying to claim that Neville only said it was a pen because he didn't want to be seen as being bias but then saying Lawrenson was speaking as a Liverpool fan/ex-Liverpool player and was being unbias by saying it wasn't. You could easily switch that around and say it was Lawrenson that was simply trying to appear impartial by claiming it wasn't and Neville was the one giving a true unbiased opinion.
As for the comment about not having it both ways. You're trying to claim that Neville only said it was a pen because he didn't want to be seen as being bias but then saying Lawrenson was speaking as a Liverpool fan/ex-Liverpool player and was being unbias by saying it wasn't. You could easily switch that around and say it was Lawrenson that was simply trying to appear impartial by claiming it wasn't and Neville was the one giving a true unbiased opinion.
You're just clutching at straws now.
The replays were not conclusive like you are saying. All I have done speculate as to why the pundits said what they did. At the end of the day all the pundits are giving is an opinion also.
Let's leave it at that shall we because this is going nowhere lol.
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I have no complaints with our squad, but Fergie is getting it all wrong when he picks the team by over-relying on Giggs and Scholes.
I'm clutching at straws? You're the one trying to claim one person is lying in an attempt to not appear bias because his opinion doesn't suit your argument and claiming another person is being totally honest and unbias because his opinion suits your argument.
And again, I've not based anything I've said on what any pundit has said. The replays on Sky were conclusive and I've based my opinion on that.
Whoa there cowboy. I didn't say that anyone was lying. I'm said that some pundits are being careful about how they are perceived by the masses (Red Nev), some are not (Lawrenson, Redknapp).
I'm not trying to make an argument, only stating my opinion. If you don't like it, do one
.The replays are not conclusive at all. You are just stating your opinion same as everyone else. Stop trying to make out that your opinion is worth more than mine, or anyone else's for that matter.
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