Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [24th - 26th August 2012]
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Just be thankful that Cheets64 isnt here to rub your nose in it. But was surprised that Wigan beat Southampton, thought Southampton were a much stronger side than Wigan.
Fingers crossed that Wigan do finally go down this season, they have been very lucky to escape relegation for the past few seasons.
Was looking out for cheets in the away fans (not far from them) not a cheets in sight!!!
They were really terrible today
If he was that good he wouldn't be at Southampton
he's better than Leeds QPR, West Ham, Villa.
QPR too, indeed. Think that will be the bottom five. I think we are almost approaching a two tier league.
Not sure what I think of Vidic's OG now I've seen it, on one hand looks to me a pretty blatant foul on the keeper but then DDG could have been stronger one would have imagined and of course Vidic didn't really do one thing or the other either. Calamity all round then; for DDG not being stronger, for Vidic for not being more decisive and for the ref for not spotting the foul.
Really wish Fergie had listen to me about signing Dembele as well, now I'm really wishing the transfer window closes with him still being a Fulham player.
Really wish Fergie had listen to me about signing Dembele as well, now I'm really wishing the transfer window closes with him still being a Fulham player.
It is legit. They deleted it about 4 seconds after it was tweeted.
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QPR are a fairly new team, as in, to the league and being built up. Hughes has a record of taking people and improving them drastically. Fulham improved a lot under him, QPR did last year as well, lots of new players will take time to gel and if they get Dawson, Carvalho that will basically be a completely difference defence.
Villa, good manager, should improve what they have, but they have so little to start with. Losing so many players and having seemingly next to no cash for any buys I don't really see where they are going to improve enough.
West Ham were hard to beat last year, already won a game, played like poop today but they had some issue at home last year as well. Few new players today, probably too many in key attacking positions but that defence. It was working well last year, Tomkins was great last year, this year stick him in midfield and put Reid/Collins in there. Demel looks better than I thought he would while Mcartney was way worse than he's been before.
Longer term Tomkins will be back in central defence with, probably Collins and Diarra in central midfield. Though Diarra looked completely awful when he came on. Not starting Vaz Te was mental and Diame did nothing after the first 20 mins, in the first 20 mins he was more active and on the ball a lot but did nothing with it, final ball being rubbish.
I think Swansea look stupidly good, did they have two really easy games and QPR/West Ham sucked that bad, or are Swansea noticeably improved over last season and QPR/West Ham just didn't really have a chance with a top 6-8 team whose particular style is going to cause a lot of weaker teams some real trouble. Bit of both really.
Far too early to call any "new" team as not being good enough to stay up, which includes those promoted and any with huge changes.
Remember how good Swansea looked last year, they didn't win till their 5th game though and the first three wins were Stoke, West Brom, Bolton, first draw with a top half team was Liverpool in the 11th game and first top half win was the 15 game. Starting slow doesn't mean a whole lot of anything for a new team finding its feet.
Villa, good manager, should improve what they have, but they have so little to start with. Losing so many players and having seemingly next to no cash for any buys I don't really see where they are going to improve enough.
West Ham were hard to beat last year, already won a game, played like poop today but they had some issue at home last year as well. Few new players today, probably too many in key attacking positions but that defence. It was working well last year, Tomkins was great last year, this year stick him in midfield and put Reid/Collins in there. Demel looks better than I thought he would while Mcartney was way worse than he's been before.
Longer term Tomkins will be back in central defence with, probably Collins and Diarra in central midfield. Though Diarra looked completely awful when he came on. Not starting Vaz Te was mental and Diame did nothing after the first 20 mins, in the first 20 mins he was more active and on the ball a lot but did nothing with it, final ball being rubbish.
I think Swansea look stupidly good, did they have two really easy games and QPR/West Ham sucked that bad, or are Swansea noticeably improved over last season and QPR/West Ham just didn't really have a chance with a top 6-8 team whose particular style is going to cause a lot of weaker teams some real trouble. Bit of both really.
Far too early to call any "new" team as not being good enough to stay up, which includes those promoted and any with huge changes.
Remember how good Swansea looked last year, they didn't win till their 5th game though and the first three wins were Stoke, West Brom, Bolton, first draw with a top half team was Liverpool in the 11th game and first top half win was the 15 game. Starting slow doesn't mean a whole lot of anything for a new team finding its feet.
An excellent team performance by Chelsea today.
Mikel is doing most of his work about 5 yards higher up the pitch so he actually has someone advanced to pass it to now when he wins it, he had a great game.
Hazard & Torres were brilliant again too, god knows how the likes of Sturridge, Marin, Oscar etc. are going to get game time, just in the lesser cups I guess, wouldn't be surprised if Sturridge was allowed to leave either, he loves himself so much he probably can't handle not playing week in week out.
Bertrand & Merieles were great too, never really thought I'd say that about the latter.
Mikel is doing most of his work about 5 yards higher up the pitch so he actually has someone advanced to pass it to now when he wins it, he had a great game.
Hazard & Torres were brilliant again too, god knows how the likes of Sturridge, Marin, Oscar etc. are going to get game time, just in the lesser cups I guess, wouldn't be surprised if Sturridge was allowed to leave either, he loves himself so much he probably can't handle not playing week in week out.
Bertrand & Merieles were great too, never really thought I'd say that about the latter.
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Feel bad for Marin mostly. Guy isn't going to get a sniff, Oscar will get his chances, paid so much for him, plus he is a serious talent as well, adopting a formation that can house Mata, Hazard and Oscar will give you something special going forward. Bring in somebody like Cavani who you're apparently after and your attacking quartet will be feared by every team.
Arsenal were interested in him a couple of years back and probably still were this summer but Chelsea paid more than double Arsenal's record transfer fee and no doubt a tasty wage packet to boot. Realistically the only clubs that could compete in a bidding war would have been MC, PSG, the Spanish giants and maybe MU although having brought in Kagawa I don't think they planned to spend that sort of cash.
Judging by this article Arsenal were priced out and it was Chelsea and MC competiing for him. In fact for all we know there may have been a bidding war with MC hence a pretty big fee: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...-Wenger-wishes-he-could-have-Eden-Hazard.html
Slightly worrying though if Arsenal don't have the money as they have been very balanced in the transfer market in recent years so despite constantly being told the stadium move had no impact on finances it makes you wonder what happened to all those £30m+ warchests Wenger allegedly had at his disposal. Maybe they should consider buying fewer players in the £10-15m bracket to free up funds for the superstars.
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I'm under the impression that Chelsea, Man.C. & Man.U. all tried to sign him and offered similar packages, his choice was made for footballing reasons although I doubt any of the snubbed supporters will believe him.
Here's his reasons -
Here's his reasons -
lol footballing reasons lol
And there it is.
I just don't understand the delusion, you've got a rich owner who's repeatedly spent millions bringing quality players to your club so why not just accept the fact he did it again and while us and City refused to pay Hazards agent the 8m (IIRC) he was asking RA had no such problem. You're only embarrassing yourself with this whole 'he moved for footballing reasons' tosh.
Hazard hasn't claimed to be a life long Chelsea fan with blue blood running through his veins so why do you have such a problem admitting the only reason he moved to your club is because RA paid what other clubs were unwilling to?