Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [24th - 28th October 2014]
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Yeah it's very slow but it's definitely happening. 200m over the next two transfer windows should have your place cemented back in the top 4 for another few years to come. Quite fortunate really to have such a dreadful start but so many other clubs have as well this season. I think that will have saved his job as United will make top 4 now I'm sure.
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Saw him on Match of the Day 2 and thought he was excellent as summariser. Should be infront of Rio Ferdinand in my opinion.
I'd start planning the funeral for that wager already if I were you.
Any reason why you even post about Man Utd, why not post about your own team for a change....
your drivel really doesnt add anything
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Oh right so you don't think progress is being made. You don't think a shed load more money is going to be spent, you don't think it going to be enough for the top four and you don't think the other clubs going for the usual top 4 have been inconsistent.
I think if those top 4 from last year were playing like last year with the start united have had they wouldn't have made the top4 and he wouldn't have kept his job or some of the mercenaries.
How can you not agree with that when you thought it would take 89 points to get top 4 this year. There's no way with that start you would have made the top 4 would you......
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Thing is we've brought in a load of established international mercs and we are still behind where we were last season which was acclaimed as a disaster.
Is that progress?
Is that progress?
Yes, there's progress. It's a big task with hundreds of varying factors (which have been well covered), but things will no doubt improve. We were fighting to the very end in the last two games which is massively different to how things were under Moyes. Anyone can see that.
I know you'll always be negative no matter what, but one day you might open your eyes Nick. I genuinely don't think you're a fan, I'm not sure what you are.
I know you'll always be negative no matter what, but one day you might open your eyes Nick. I genuinely don't think you're a fan, I'm not sure what you are.
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But apart from releasing 150 million what progress is there? I don't see more points on the board compared to last season.
You keep saying things will improve. That's great and all but when? We look awful at the back. Going forward sans di maria we don't look good. Pretty sure we drew with Chelsea at ot last season too.
You keep saying things will improve. That's great and all but when? We look awful at the back. Going forward sans di maria we don't look good. Pretty sure we drew with Chelsea at ot last season too.
It's early days and the points will come. You don't just spend money and buy half a new first eleven and then everything clicks instantly, it can take a while. It's starting to happen now. Injuries aren't helping either!
The team last season all knew each other, how to play, and had lots of experience, that makes a huge difference. Moyes just made a mess of things.
I don't think we've spent our money as wisely as possible, but there's not much we can do about that now. Thankfully we don't seem to be on a tight budget so can start sorting out the defence in January, unless it massively improves.
The team last season all knew each other, how to play, and had lots of experience, that makes a huge difference. Moyes just made a mess of things.
I don't think we've spent our money as wisely as possible, but there's not much we can do about that now. Thankfully we don't seem to be on a tight budget so can start sorting out the defence in January, unless it massively improves.
I guess we won't know until the end of the season, if it still get's you fourth you have to say that's an improvement. The spirit does look to be returning, whether you are going to be a better side because LVG is a great coach or because he's being able to spend huge amounts I don't yet know.
Has anyone improved in performance yet from last year? Has anyone got worse? I don't think fourth looks the huge ask it seemed last year under moyes and that's even with the terrible start. Everyone is terrible this season except Chelsea, Southampton and on occasion City.
Progress is having a plan B when we have a decent squad
Progress is being able to limit Fabregas for the majority of the game when in pretty much every other game he's bossed it
Progress is getting one full game and 45 minutes of decent football out of Fellaini when Moyes couldn't do it in a full season
Progress is getting Herrera within a few weeks of taking over as boss rather than all summer and not getting him
Progress is getting balancing the squad when there is too much of Player X but not enough of Player Y unless of course you thought we had too much pace up front last year.
If that Chelsea game was played in August or September, I would wager we would have got the hiding so many of the press, ex players and pundits predicted we would get. Yet we come out against what I believe to be a team with very little weakness and bar a major catastrophe look odds on to have the league to lose now.
Yes there are still a lot of individual errors being made and yes the defence looks shaky but what is developing is the players resillience.
Maybe I am looking through Rose tinted glasses but at least you can see a plan on the pitch. Other than than one or two games last year against poor opposition, we looked devoid of any game plan.
After the next transfer window you never know!
LvG has always been a slow starter at all his previous club teams.
This is par for the course.
If you want instant results then we should've got Mourinho - but didnt.
Thngs are proceeding in exactly the same way as Ajax, Barca, Bayern and AZ.
LvG has ALWAYS won at least 1 league title with every team he managed and I see Man Utd being no different.
Under Moyes we were negative and this negativity carried on for 7 games into this season. But in the WBA game, finally, we played with no fear and hammered the opposition for 90 minutes (more possession, more shots on goal, etc). Same goes for Chelsea - we had more possession, more chances, more shots and fought for the whole game. Under Moyes this would never had happened.
We took a massive step forward in the last 2 games.
With regards to the £200M comment: at present our team is good enough to get top 4. Maybe top 3. However, we want to win the league title next year. With that in mind, we probably will spend another £200M in the next year or 2.
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Interesting that posession was the same as was the result in 2013 and on Sunday. ..sure the game was more open this year with more shots by both teams.
Last time we had cleverly and valencia and Carrick in the team...so of course we were bound to be terrible.
Last time we had cleverly and valencia and Carrick in the team...so of course we were bound to be terrible.
He can post about Utd as much as he likes. If you're not happy with non Man Utd supporters posting about Utd then you'd be better off sticking to Man Utd forums.
It's not as simple as teaching a player to play a certain role. Sometimes players simply aren't physically capable of doing it. Mourinho couldnt teach Mata to do the job he wanted at Chelsea mainly because Mata physically isn't capable of working at a high tempo for a sustained period or covering the ground that somebody like Oscar could.
The above probably answers your question about cm's. Poch wants high energy centre mids that can get about the pitch, pressing and closing down the opposition. You'll know better than me but none of your CM's strike me as being capable of playing in the way Schneiderlin did for example.
1st you never answered the question - why don't you ever post about Everton (certainly 2/3 of your posts appear to be about Utd rather than anyone else)
2nd) I never said I don't think progress is being made, Ive posted several times this season that he is getting more out of some players, bought in a lot of players the 1st team /squad needed and getting some of the fighting spirit back
3rdly ) you make up an arbitrary sum like £200m when the squad doesn't actually need that amount spending on it to compete with Chelsea /City (even though Chelsea have SPENT £100m on a much more developed squad in the same time frame)
Rich coming from the biggest wind up merchant of the lot
Mine was still a fair comment
I really don't think that sum will be necessary (unless you are not including a lot of reasonable sales into that, to make it £100 - £150m net)
Get two or three players in by the end of next summer and we should be able to compete directly with Chelsea /City in regards to 1st XI's and hopefully by then a few youngsters will be developing nicely also
From then on its a case of hopefully swapping out one ageing player or so a season to strengthen the squad, or a youngster that doesn't quite work out (as SAF was doing right at his peak)
The only question mark on the above is what happens to RvP and Falcao - if neither really work out this season it will cost a small fortune to replace one or both of them.
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No it wasn't and if you continue making such comments I'd imagine the mods will make it far easier for you to post solely on Utd forums.
Like it or not, Danny and anybody else can post as much about Utd as they want.