Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [29th December 2012 - 2nd January 2013]

Our entire team was woeful, you can't just blame Walcott. He had 1 ball through to him all game which he was marginally offside for. Our midfield has been massively dissapointing since the first few games. I don't understand our team at all, 95% of the play goes down the right hand side which results in pointless crosses all game when we have a midget up front. Even with Giroud up front a cross never gets near him. Our best crosser of the ball and best finisher gets isolated on the left, hardly ever passed to and subbed off every game. Sagna was truely awful, Jenkinson was awesome and one of our best players while he was injured yet doesn't even get a chance to come on as a sub when Sagna can't do anything right.

Then come Wengers default substitutions, Ramsey and Gervinho. They won't change a game, they never do but on top of that our formation and play style stays the same just with worse players.
 
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Raymond Lin said:
Why doesn't he play podolski and giroud up front? That to me is the logical front 2.
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Because Wenger is an utter retard thats why.

CliffyG said:
Our entire team was woeful, you can't just blame Walcott. He had 1 ball through to him all game which he was marginally offside for. Our midfield has been massively dissapointing since the first few games. I don't understand our team at all, 95% of the play goes down the right hand side which results in pointless crosses all game when we have a midget up front. Even with Giroud up front a cross never gets near him. Our best crosser of the ball and best finisher gets isolated on the left, hardly ever passed to and subbed off every game. Sagna was truely awful, Jenkinson was awesome and one of our best players while he was injured yet doesn't even get a chance to come on as a sub when Sagna can't do anything right.

Then come Wengers default substitutions, Ramsey and Gervinho. They won't change a game, they never do but on top of that our formation and play style stays the same just with worse players.
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Pretty much what i thought as well. The fact that we drew with Southampton was beyond hilarious. Its inexcusable that we dropped 2 pts to a team that earlier on we battered to high heaven. I mean geez we didnt score a goal but rather relied on an own goal.

4 pts from the last 2 games, its just not good enough anymore. If we somehow qualify for CL footie next yr it will be nothing short of a miracle. At the moment Spurs are playing much better football and grinding out results whereas we arent.
 
CliffyG said:
Our entire team was woeful, you can't just blame Walcott. He had 1 ball through to him all game which he was marginally offside for. Our midfield has been massively dissapointing since the first few games. I don't understand our team at all, 95% of the play goes down the right hand side which results in pointless crosses all game when we have a midget up front. Even with Giroud up front a cross never gets near him. Our best crosser of the ball and best finisher gets isolated on the left, hardly ever passed to and subbed off every game. Sagna was truely awful, Jenkinson was awesome and one of our best players while he was injured yet doesn't even get a chance to come on as a sub when Sagna can't do anything right.

Then come Wengers default substitutions, Ramsey and Gervinho. They won't change a game, they never do but on top of that our formation and play style stays the same just with worse players.
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I can blame Walcott, while he played upfront AND when he switched to the right he doesn't show for the ball, he was only ever looking to get behind.

Henry, Reyes, Wiltord, Giroud, RVP, Bendtner, Bergkamp, Rooney, Aguero, Villa, Torres, Drogba, they are all "available" for the ball all game. They don't ONLY look to run in behind, if the game isn't going well they'll happily come deeper, get on the ball and give other guys a chance to get forward.

Walcott doesn't want to fight, doesn't want to play as a forward, he wants to do one tiny small part of his job and nothing else at all.

Even in the 7-3 Newcastle game Giroud looked more available, more dynamic, more flexible and got involved more than Walcott did, Walcott got 3 goals, yet was barely involved in the game(though more than usual) against Southampton no one would have missed him at all, we could have played 10 men and been identical.

He doesn't work defenders, he doesn't change his runs, he doesn't drop deep to pull defenders out and make gaps for others to run into. He's so utterly limited and he makes a woeful woeful lone striker and a pretty woeful winger.

He's lazy and rubbish, Drogba can easily run onto a throughball if the chance comes up and would also finish more often than Walcott does, Drogba also does 100 other things when playing upfront, from defending to scoring any type of goal, or setting up others for any type of goal, great throughball, chip, hold up turn and run at goal, hold up turn and pass someone in. Walcott does none of that, which both makes him painfully predictable to defend against, but also makes Arsenal painfully predictable to defend against.

RVP spent half the year dropping deep to pick up the ball and vary the way we played last year. By dropping deep getting on the ball and setting others up, you make yourself and your team less predictable making the times you do run in behind less predictable... and so you can do that more often.

Walcott is rubbish and I can blame mostly him, him or the idiot who plays him.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Why doesn't he play podolski and giroud up front? That to me is the logical front 2.
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This is why I don't care who we buy... lets by Falcao, and play him on the wing(because it worked with Henry.... ), lets by Lampard and play him on the wing, lets by a winger and play him at left back(Gibbs/santos), etc, etc.

We bought Podolski, a quality player, who needs a certain type of striker to play off if he'll play wide, or makes an excellent central striker..... then we played him out of position with the kind of striker he plays crap with.

Podolski + Klose, a guy who can do anything but whose interplay with his wide players and offensive midfielders is beyond excellent..... great partnership and Podolski looked great.

Podolski and tap in artist Gomez... Podolski looks woeful... oh wait, I predicted he would play well wide before the season started, IF we play a certain way and poorly if he plays with useless central players.

Santi plays better with Giroud upfront, or when Podolski has a great game, and poorly when he has Gervinho or Walcott ahead of him, he's another player who is all about interplay, great pass and move, not the strength or speed to say like Bale create chances all on his own.


I'd love Arsenal to buy great players this month, I just have zero trust that Wenger will buy a great player AND play him in his most effective role, not sabotage them by playing them with morons, or more often than not lately, just buy crap players. Even when he buys the right guys, he screws them anyway. Arshavin is still one of if not our best player.... and can't get a game.
 
I said, "can't just blame Walcott". He was very bad, but so was every other player on the pitch, some much worse such as Sagna.

The team as a whole seems not to care, there is no urgency, takes us 20 passes to get from defence to attack and leaves us no chance to break which in turn pretty much negates having Walcott up front. The amount of times the ball ends up back with our centre backs after being in a promising position is soul destroying. I just don't know how Wilshere, Cazorla and Arteta can be so bad together, they've not once dominated another team.
 
Yas786 said:
Pretty much what i thought as well. The fact that we drew with Southampton was beyond hilarious. Its inexcusable that we dropped 2 pts to a team that earlier on we battered to high heaven. I mean geez we didnt score a goal but rather relied on an own goal.
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Oi! :p

We have been in good form the last few months (since that battering) and that battering was mostly a result of not having our best players available (and having to play Kelvin Davis and Danny Fox who are never going to make it at this level). We have given plenty of teams a really good run for their money this year and no one should think they can turn up and expect 3 points! We aren't QPR or one of the proper relegation teams.

Worst of all one mad linesman decision has left us feeling like 2 points dropped.
 
drunkenmaster said:
I can blame Walcott, while he played upfront AND when he switched to the right he doesn't show for the ball, he was only ever looking to get behind.

Henry, Reyes, Wiltord, Giroud, RVP, Bendtner, Bergkamp, Rooney, Aguero, Villa, Torres, Drogba, they are all "available" for the ball all game. They don't ONLY look to run in behind, if the game isn't going well they'll happily come deeper, get on the ball and give other guys a chance to get forward.

Walcott doesn't want to fight, doesn't want to play as a forward, he wants to do one tiny small part of his job and nothing else at all.

Even in the 7-3 Newcastle game Giroud looked more available, more dynamic, more flexible and got involved more than Walcott did, Walcott got 3 goals, yet was barely involved in the game(though more than usual) against Southampton no one would have missed him at all, we could have played 10 men and been identical.

He doesn't work defenders, he doesn't change his runs, he doesn't drop deep to pull defenders out and make gaps for others to run into. He's so utterly limited and he makes a woeful woeful lone striker and a pretty woeful winger.

He's lazy and rubbish, Drogba can easily run onto a throughball if the chance comes up and would also finish more often than Walcott does, Drogba also does 100 other things when playing upfront, from defending to scoring any type of goal, or setting up others for any type of goal, great throughball, chip, hold up turn and run at goal, hold up turn and pass someone in. Walcott does none of that, which both makes him painfully predictable to defend against, but also makes Arsenal painfully predictable to defend against.

RVP spent half the year dropping deep to pick up the ball and vary the way we played last year. By dropping deep getting on the ball and setting others up, you make yourself and your team less predictable making the times you do run in behind less predictable... and so you can do that more often.

Walcott is rubbish and I can blame mostly him, him or the idiot who plays him.
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That is why i dont care if he doesnt sign a new contract and he is no way deserves 100k.
 
Team for our must win game tonight.

Reina, Wisdom, Skrtel, Agger, Johnson, Lucas, Henderson, Gerrard, Downing, Sterling, Suarez.

Subs: Jones, Sahin, Carragher, Shelvey, Allen, Robinson, Suso.
 
Probably should have been a red but it was very early in the game and he does look to have backed out at the last second although I have to say I would be amazed if the ref saw that at normal speed. Its 50/50 as to whether he pulled out in the slow mo.
 
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