Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [30th Mar - 2nd April 2012]

Agreed, they will only sell if they want to. Pardew is talking about Europe and that requires keeping this squad together, although I don't expect much if any additional investment.

I don't think NUFCs current sqaud can cope playing every three days, so imo 2 or 3 European/experienced players will be needed so they can challange for similar EPL position this time in 2013
 
I have to admit I don't want Swansea to lose but imo Spurs are needing the 3 points a lot more

I would be very happy with a Utd, City, Spurs /Arsenal, Arsenal / Spurs, NUFC top 5 come May
 
He said why do they NEED to sell them, not why might they. If Tiote wants to go to Chelsea for 25-30mil and 100k a week, more power too him, Newcastle get 30mil, a huge profit, and can then buy a replacement, AND a CB, and another attacking central midfielder, AND their wages and be a stronger team than before.

You've been playing too much Football Manager, it is not that easy.

Newcastle have done very well with their transfers, but it also comes down to luck and how them players will adapt to the English game, fortunately for Newcastle they have adapted superbly. Doesn't mean the next player will be half as good even if they have performed in another country.

Of course, Newcastle could just be overachieving and be rubbish next season :D
 
Really? Considering you've got a fair few players that can deliver the ball and a fair few decent players in the air, that's shocking.
Not as shocking as our set pieces, we are utterly useless and obviously never practice any. Adebayor being next to useless in the air doesn't help... yes I know he just scored a header but it's the first time he's done it this season.
 
I don't think NUFCs current sqaud can cope playing every three days, so imo 2 or 3 European/experienced players will be needed so they can challange for similar EPL position this time in 2013

I agree. European football could be a poisoned challace for us next season if we get it (apart from the obvious financial benefit).

Just look at Stoke this season.

Expect us to qualify for the Europa league and then be fighting for a mid-table position in the EPL next year.
 
You've been playing too much Football Manager, it is not that easy.

Newcastle have done very well with their transfers, but it also comes down to luck and how them players will adapt to the English game, fortunately for Newcastle they have adapted superbly. Doesn't mean the next player will be half as good even if they have performed in another country.

Of course, Newcastle could just be overachieving and be rubbish next season :D

This is entirely the point, I don't play any football manager, some players will suck, this is true if you buy 35mil players, 50mil players who have already played well in this league, or free transfer players.

They way you stop this being a problem, is to account for it. how do you account for it? Maximise profit, if you get an offer above and beyond what a player is worth, that same player might break his leg next year and never play for you again, the ONLY way to get the full value is sell when someone wants to stupidly over pay.

If you do so you make money, you make a profit, that gives you some room for error in the transfer market.

Sell Tiote for 30mil, buy 3 players for 10mil each, if 1 is crap, you've lost 10mil. If you don't sell him, and he has a crap season then misses two seasons injured then leaves on a free, what do you get? its offsetting the risks, taking advantage of a great deal by selling way beyond his value can in most situations simply not backfire, its banking the money while its available not praying to god that value stays the same for a long time. Again this is also assuming you actually have a real say, if the player WANTS to leave then you've got nothing to lose anyway.

The more profitable you can be, the more room you have for a 10mil buy to go bad and to still be able to afford to offload that player and buy someone else for 10mil.

Clubs that run beyond there means or so ridiculously close to breaking even almost always get into trouble, clubs that remain profitable with a comfortable margin simply stay safe and well run for a long time.

It's the clubs who desperately hang on to players by giving them silly money they can't afford or buying new players without moving others on who get into trouble.

Arsenal do this time and time again and look how they are regarded financially. ADebayor on the cheap and let him go for a great fee, Toure, Nasri, Clichy, Fabregas, they've made a bunch of blunders as well and why are Arsenal getting worse. Because we started also losing players on free who could otherwise have helped or been highly profitable. Gervinho had one decent year in a poo league and we spent 12mil on a guy who (i'm assuming) was pretty damn cheap to Lille, this is the opposite of what Arsenal normally do, get a great year or two out of someone like Gervinho on the cheap and let someone else pay over the odd's for him.
 
Last edited:
I agree. European football could be a poisoned challace for us next season if we get it (apart from the obvious financial benefit).

Just look at Stoke this season.

Expect us to qualify for the Europa league and then be fighting for a mid-table position in the EPL next year.

And how exactly has europe hinderd us? Few bad results here and there but can you honestly tell me we would be in a better position without Europe? We are no better than the position we hold in the league right now. its not like we have been fighting relagation becuase we have been playing in the europa league is it!

Europa league was wonderful i throughouly enjoyed my time in valencia with the rest of the 7 thousand stoke fans :D

The only way it can be a negative is if you dont go to games so dont get to experince wonderful european night matches :D Its great for the fans
 
I agree. European football could be a poisoned challace for us next season if we get it (apart from the obvious financial benefit).

Just look at Stoke this season.

Expect us to qualify for the Europa league and then be fighting for a mid-table position in the EPL next year.

Difference is, Stoke were crap last year, played crap football and are crap, Stoke are crap this year and play crap football, they just had one particularly lucky year in the league. They weren't out there smashing good teams 3-0, they were scraping wins against teams with a whole lot of cheating and fouling thrown in to spoil the other side. Euro football has cost them to some degree, but so is simply being a pretty poor side ;)

But again this is where making a killing on players who aren't worth it comes in, you can strengthen and build the squad effectively without getting into debt and relying on income you might not get.

I mean, Newcastle have on a dozen + occasions looked like a side who could geniunely compete for a top 4 place, Stoke, honestly never once in 5 years have I ever watched them, even winning, even with a decent margin said to myself, they look like european/top of the table team, ever, their football is dire, their tactics are terrible, they don't have particularly athletic or fit players, just big thugs. Newcastle, not saying they'll win the Europa league and move up to 4th, but they are a completely different prospect to Stoke to the degree that they are incomparable, quite simply one team can play football, the other can't.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom