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Thanks! It's all dry today, but I doubt the Toyota salesman would let my floor it anyway. My previous car was an R170 SLK, so that's the benchmark, both simular in terms of bhp.
 
rebel rebel said:
Thanks! It's all dry today, but I doubt the Toyota salesman would let my floor it anyway. My previous car was an R170 SLK, so that's the benchmark, both simular in terms of bhp.
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Flooring it, even in 1st is fine in a straight line, in the dry. in the wet in a straight line you might enrage the TC and/or get wheel spin. Round a corner in the wet and you might get the uncomfortable lurch of the nannies saving you from swapping ends, unless you can handle turning them off and doing some new power slides. Toyota saleman will probably object to disabling the TC and ESC though.
 
Yea the car moves around a LOT, which can be a bit un-nerving at first. If you drive quickly you'll see the TC flashing loads when pulling out of wet junctions and tight bends etc. It's pretty much the norm with these, especially with slippy OEM tyres. It's a really good way to learn about RWD though.

Definitely don't turn the TC completely off unless you have lots of room, or happen to be the drift king. Or you'll end up looking like a muppet facing the wrong way on a roundabout :D
 
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Whereabouts are you based?

When it comes to servicing most Toyota garages are next to clueless since they don't see all that many GT86's and it's basically a Subaru. RRG Toyota Macclesfield is second to none as far as servicing and post point of sale care. They look after a fair few race/sprint cars, and people travel from virtually all over the country to use them. They're great with warranty stuff too, much of what I've had done wouldn't have got through most Toyota dealers without a fight.
 
Lowe said:
Whereabouts are you based?

When it comes to servicing most Toyota garages are next to clueless since they don't see all that many GT86's and it's basically a Subaru. RRG Toyota Macclesfield is second to none as far as servicing and post point of sale care. They look after a fair few race/sprint cars, and people travel from virtually all over the country to use them. They're great with warranty stuff too, much of what I've had done wouldn't have got through most Toyota dealers without a fight.
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Not sure if you remember me from GT86 forum Lowe, but I owned a 2013 black GT86 with white JR3 wheels with same username. Don't own now sadly and currently own Mazda3 MPS mk2.
rebel rebel said:
I'm in Southend the dealership is in Romford. Haven't gone for any servicing, its gonna have 1 years warranty.
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If you're from Southend maybe consider going to Abbey motorsport for service and even any big mods you want to do.
They are based in Oxted area and they are also pretty big.
 
Yeah I remember. :) How come you changed?

Abbey's a good shout - just obviously can't do warranty stuff.
 
Lowe said:
Yeah I remember. :) How come you changed?
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I did too many miles at the time which made commuting a bit more expensive than what I predicted originally. Changed job now and got shorter journey and I had 2 other cars before the MPS which none of them satisfied my needs.
Warranty work I would just take it to any dealer personally, if they screw up they will amend it but yeah RRG is highly recommended.
Southend to Abbey is an hour drive which is worth it in my opinion as you know you'll get excellent service and if you ever did want go FI, they can definitely do it for you.
 
Had mine 18 months now.

First dealership I went to - the salesman acted as a salesman. Slow urban roads, kept asking about when I wanted to buy, how much I wanted to spend, etc. Lots of pressure. Despite being a good example, he put me off. A week later he even phoned/emailed me to check if I was still interested, and when I said no, he said I wasted his time.

Went to another dealership further away. The salesman told me outright he would let me drive the car on a dual carriageway as I wished as long as I stuck to the speed limit. Pointed out the speed cameras, but otherwise told me he didn't mind me driving it spiritedly. He in fact told me the car would sell itself, and he wouldn't do a hard sell. I agreed to buy it the minute we got back to the dealership. No issues since other than replacing the low mah battery for a bigger one.

Sadly my servicing is at the first dealership due to proximity, but at least I don't have to deal with the salesman.
 
PaulCa said:
The 2017 has a better ESC mode called "TRACK" mode which tries to help you hoon better:

And, excuse me if I posted this already, but this was my previous 2014 on track:
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The updated model's TC will kick in a bit later, but the rear is also a bit less lively as they made it stiffer.
 
I had looked at the abbeymotorsport website before, and it would probably be my first port of call if I decide to tune it. Tbh though I was that impressed with the car that modding is now not an immediate thought. I was prepared for it to be slower than my slk but it seemed faster. The salesman drove it first, and put his foot down, and I then I drove it on a dual carriageway and some back streets. It was a lot of fun, and really easy to drive. I knew straight away I was going to buy it. It's a grey one, and I pick it up in a weeks time.

In the showroom there was an 18 plate black one with the stickers on the side. So cool! Anyone know how much it is to wrap one?
 
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rebel rebel said:
I had looked at the abbeymotorsport website before, and it would probably be my first port of call if I decide to tune it. Tbh though I was that impressed with the car that modding is now not an immediate thought. I was prepared for it to be slower than my slk but it seemed faster. The salesman drove it first, and put his foot down, and I then I drove it on a dual carriageway and some back streets. It was a lot of fun, and really easy to drive. I knew straight away I was going to buy it. It's a grey one, and I pick it up in a weeks time.

In the showroom there was an 18 plate black one with the stickers on the side. So cool! Anyone know how much it is to wrap one?
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Abbey's good, but they use other companies parts. Tuning Developments, the other known 86 tuner in the UK tend to make their own stuff which makes it a bit cheaper. Their NA package is pretty much the best bang for buck upgrade for the 86.

Welcome to team grey! It's a pretty rare colour, but does require a bit of looking after. You'll also tire of the, 'Does it need a buff back to black mate?' and 'Nice black 86' jokes...

The paint on the 86's is very soft and the darker colours are very prone to showing swirl marks. If you don't already know, read up on prewashing and the two bucket method for washing cars. Trust me, you'll thank me in the long run! The grey is quite an understated colour unless the sun's out, which is exactly what I like about it. You kinda blend in to the background and don't draw too much attention. Once the sun's out though you can see the flake in the paintwork and it's like a different car entirely.
 
Abbey Motorsport
Fensport
Tuning Development

The 3 main GT86 places to go for any mods or work done, Adrian road tuning is fantastic at Fensport which is where I went to get bits done.
 
Nasher said:
The updated model's TC will kick in a bit later, but the rear is also a bit less lively as they made it stiffer.
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It's quite a bit different. It's not that it kicks in later, it behaves completely differently. For example the TC will only attempt to keep you off the rev limiter while drifting. The ESC is not digital either, but much more progressive, pliable and subtle... and importantly is aware of opposite lock correction which does not cause it to engage immediately.

You really can flick the tail out 10 degrees and hold it and the TC/ESC actually only engages to help you maintain the slide, rather than stop it.

Of course if you boot it on a slippery roundabout and the tail swings rapidly it will step in with full force to prevent a spin.

Also I believe the rear end was softened. The dampers were softened all round to improve ride quality but the rear anti-roll bar was softened and the rear camber increased to give the rear end a bit more grip and the slides more progressive. The down side is there is more chassis roll in the rear end. Was very noticable when I first changed cars as the rolling sensation on turn in was very similar to the "hunkering down" the 2012 did just before it let go. It also wears the inside edges of the rear tyres more than the outside.
 
Lowe said:
Abbey's good, but they use other companies parts. Tuning Developments, the other known 86 tuner in the UK tend to make their own stuff which makes it a bit cheaper. Their NA package is pretty much the best bang for buck upgrade for the 86.

Welcome to team grey! It's a pretty rare colour, but does require a bit of looking after. You'll also tire of the, 'Does it need a buff back to black mate?' and 'Nice black 86' jokes...

The paint on the 86's is very soft and the darker colours are very prone to showing swirl marks. If you don't already know, read up on prewashing and the two bucket method for washing cars. Trust me, you'll thank me in the long run! The grey is quite an understated colour unless the sun's out, which is exactly what I like about it. You kinda blend in to the background and don't draw too much attention. Once the sun's out though you can see the flake in the paintwork and it's like a different car entirely.
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I read with an automatic I could only go to around 260bhp, as that's all the box could handle. So if I did want to add some power I guess supercharging or turboing would be too much. Whatever I decide to do, it won't be in the near future. Yesterday I got a preliminary date for starting kidney dialysis, so the future is somewhat muddled at the moment.

I would not have the energy of dexterity to wash the car thoroughly myself, so will be relying on car valeting places. There's a few in Southend, or failing that a friend owns a car wash in London.

I like the car in grey and red so that was what I was looking for. But I have to say the black one in the showroom looked amazing, maybe that was enhanced by the lighting though.
 
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