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GTX 1060

Seanspeed said:
4870 was $300.

And the games it was playing at 1080p/60fps were early gen X360/PS3 games.

Early PS4/XB1 gen games didn't take much to run games at 1080p/60fps, either(I could do it with my GTX670 in most cases). But as the generation gets past those early stages, games tend to get a good bit more demanding. Didn't take long for my 670 to become inadequate and for games to require something more like a 290/970 to achieve the same targets.
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which with today's exchange rate would make it more like £360 not the £179 we paid for it back then
 
AthlonXP1800 said:
Interesting.

AIBs added SLi connectors in custom 1060 cards while Nvidia reference and Founders cards lacked SLi connectors probably due to compact size.
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The question is...did Gigabyte and Inno check with Nvidia before pulling this?

I think we all remember how Nvidia gave MSI and EVGA a slap in the wrist forcing them to lock down the voltage for the 680 (due to they were going to rebrand the 680 as 770) after people already bought the Lightning and Classified cards :rolleyes:

Wouldn't be funny if Nvidia decide to tell Gigabyte and Inno that they have to disable the SLI function or suffer their wraith.
 
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Aretak said:
Yes, I know. That doesn't change the fact that what you're saying is absolutely untrue, bar bringing ridiculous levels of MSAA into the equation (which will still murder your framerate to this day). A 4870 could run just about any game of its day at 1080p/60fps on very high settings for under £200. And the 5870 that came out later in 2009 absolutely blew the 4870 away, albeit at closer to £300. It certainly didn't cost "£400+" to achieve your stated goal though. Well, at least not if you were on the red team. ;)
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You should take each generation and analyse it on its own terms for a more accurate picture, since the level of graphics and the processing power required to drive it is dependent on the capability of the latest console at the time which sets the standard for gaming graphics.

As Seanspeed said, you need 970/390 power to run 1080p/60fps at very high settings in the XBox One/PS4 era. The price of that performance has been coming down year on year.

You're right when it comes to the long term picture though, where it seems the price of GPUs has been relatively constant. This is because graphics are pushed to a new level in each generation, and so the price to performance of driving the new generation's 1080/60fps benchmark is effectively reset.

I would argue though that PC gaming is in the process of two significant developments that are likely to change this pattern. Firstly: consoles are using PC architecture leading to obvious advantages for the PC; and secondly: the introduction of DX12 and lower level APIs should help reduce the efficiency gap between consoles and PCs, where consoles are extremely efficient due to their hardware and software integration which PCs currently can't compete with. I think the benefits of these low level APIs will be much more pronounced on PCs than on consoles, which have far less headroom for performance gains.

In the here and now though, we're almost in the third year of the current generation consoles, and as I said multiple times, the price of driving PC equivalent performance is falling year on year with each new generation from AMD and Nvidia.
 
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Greebo said:
which with today's exchange rate would make it more like £360 not the £179 we paid for it back then
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Indeed, maybe not quite that much but certainly closer to £300 than sub-£200. We'd be seeing much better prices now if the exchange rate wasn't so bad. It was ~1.97 this time in 2008, now it's 1.29. You could get a 480 or 1060 for £150 or less at that rate.
 
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I genuinely think these cards will be pretty good, especially if they are under £250. Would anybody really go SLI with these? especially considering that SLI is a bit fubar lately. Not sure why the FE has no fingers but the Giga does? A bit odd but meh anyways.
 
Gregster said:
Agreed. I can see someone buying one and a few months later thinking "might try SLI" and they possibly can't but I would tell people to avoid SLI anyways at the mo in honesty.
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Even then, just what is the point. If you only have a budget for a 1060 so you buy that now, then in X months time you have some more cash and want an upgrade. Buying a second 1060 is just stupid, sell your first 1060 and with those proceeds go out and by a 1070 or 1080, even second hand.


Combining lower end GPUs to try and get the performance of a higher end GPU for somewhat less money is just a stupid idea and not work it in today climate. Multi-gpu only makes sense if you are buying at the very high end and want the absolute ultimate performance whatever the cost. SLI 1070 or 1080 makes sense, there is nothing faster you can buy right now and if you re powering a 4K screen and have the budget then why not. SLI 1060, just nonsense.
 
NVIDIA Confirms Suggested Retail Prices for GeForce GTX 1060

Custom cards 239 GBP, Including VAT.

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http://videocardz.com/62049/nvidia-confirms-suggested-prices-for-geforce-gtx-1060
 
They already said RRP, so not sure why post it again. Basically none of the 1070/1080 hit their RRP, the ones that do or come closest are pretty terrible and not the ones people want. The ones people want are much much closer to FE pricing if not above. No one is disputing RRP, people are disputing that any decent cards will be available at RRP.
 
Not keen on the way GPU pricing has gone, it's like people are getting exited at today's GTX460 equivalent being released for £250.00 :confused:
 
adey said:
Not keen on the way GPU pricing has gone, it's like people are getting exited at today's GTX460 equivalent being released for £250.00 :confused:
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The exchange rate against the dollar is the problem, people in the US aren't getting the same massive increase in prices. The 460 1GB was £200/$230 back then.
 
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