That video is terrible!Thanks Ice. Going to change this on my routine now. I was starting at 40kg
I saw this for taller people too. Would you recommend I separate my legs like this dude? Clicky
No, Elliot, no.
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No, Elliot, no.
These look good now.
You need a bit more tightness and your coordination is a bit lacking, but those will come with time. However, you do need to keep your head neutral.
Head neutral!
Spend some time before your reps getting your back straight, setting your core tight and getting tension on the bar. It should not look like you are yanking at it.
From what I remember, that's a massive improvement.
Your glutes look a little weak, so it's not surprising that you're feeling it there.
If you can learn to generate more stiffness and stability they will continue to look good as you ramp up the weights.
Your glutes look a little weak, so it's not surprising that you're feeling it there.
If you can learn to generate more stiffness and stability they will continue to look good as you ramp up the weights.
Everything looks ok, although I'd need to see the squats from the back to make final judgement.Did some more videos.
I went yesterday, when I got there dead...Decided to do a form vid everyone turned up!.
Squats
1st set
5th set
Barbell row:
Usually I struggle getting down being so lanky. But I took your advice and rested the barbell on weights and took the shoes off. Think iv got the form better than when I first started out.
Make sure you keep your chest "up" on the BORs, you need a bit more thoracic extension. Keep your head in line with your spine too.
I think I know who you're referring to, and I don't think they got their big squatting and deadlift numbers with deadlift stance squats (even if they think they helped).
I'm not going to rule them out without trialling them on myself or other people, but I doubt they offer much useful training effect.
Really, it's kind of because they have the benefit of good coaching. As a cookie cutter rule, feet as parallel as possible is much (MUCH) better than specifying more turn out.I'm going to go out on a non-regular limb and suggest that toes out a tiny bit more than "five to one o'clock" is not going to kill you or your knees, provided you can keep them in the correct alignment (knees outside your big toe).
Most people can't do this easily (or properly), which is one of the reasons it's not advised.
A lot of Olympic lifters, for instance, will squat with quite a narrow stance with toes relatively far out (and knees, too) compared to powerlifters, etc.
Why? No idea. Practically, as somebody who pretends to snatch and clean, it allows the lifter to get a lot deeper into the squat and keep a good core alignment (and upright-ness) than otherwise. Doing this with a wide, parallel stance is perfectly possible, but none of the top Olympic lifters do it (tell a lie - there are a couple of Chinese dudes who go ultra wide and almost parallel in the catch, but pffft.).
However, you also have to bear in mind that these lifters know what they're doing...
Ultimately, it should be possible to hit the positions with parallel feet, but achieving the mobility required might be impractical for some.
This kind of implies poor foot/ground contact. You're probably twisting due to mobility issues, so those could be worked on too.
Aim to keep your foot active, and reset your feet between reps if necessary.
So you read that this will definitely fix your back issues and dysfunction, which you seem fairly happy to believe, and then you read that it might also be bad...???
Where does the wood come into it?
What is going on?
To cut a long post short, no, this is a terrible idea.
Nate, for the love of god, please realise that there is a reason that people do things the way that they do.
There is a common solution for mobility issues and dysfunction, and it has nothing to do with squatting down with some wood in a broken position for hours.
Do your mobility exercises, perform functional movements and pay attention to your posture.
You are very strange...
There is a common solution for mobility issues and dysfunction, and it has nothing to do with squatting down with some wood in a broken position for hours.
Do your mobility exercises, perform functional movements and pay attention to your posture.
You are very strange...
It's not even fixing anything at all "the old fashioned way", which under other circumstances might have a lot of merit. It's arbitrarily deciding that something is a good idea without being aware of all of the factors that influence it's success, or indeed it's total failure.
Having seen Nate move, he will not be able to extract any benefit from this.
I doubt he will listen though.
Having seen Nate move, he will not be able to extract any benefit from this.
I doubt he will listen though.
Nothing, apart from kinesiology and the mechanics of the position and how they interact with your various dysfunctions. You, like most people living modern lifestyles, are not a blank slate and you do not function as nature intended.
Please engage your brain before you self diagnose and prescribe random treatments.
Please engage your brain before you self diagnose and prescribe random treatments.
You're talking to me like full squatting is new information to me... It isn't.
You appear to be utterly convinced that you are right, so go for it.
We wouldn't want crazy things like listening and smart choices to get in the way of unfounded arrogance now would we?
You appear to be utterly convinced that you are right, so go for it.
We wouldn't want crazy things like listening and smart choices to get in the way of unfounded arrogance now would we?
You're still missing the point.Okay fine I won't try it then, I don't mean to be arrogant I just wish I could squat inside the gym and outside.
Aiming to be able to full squat comfortably with good positioning is a great idea. Your ankles will be your biggest problem.
Using this position, when you've developed it, when casually bending down/resting/whatever is also a great idea.
The other stuff you tacked onto these basic principals was where things stopped making sense.
Why are you continuing to second guess what you've been told? You need to look no further than fixing your loaded squat and deadlift (including the associated mobility) and pay attention to your posture 24/7.
Why are you imagining for even a second that you might know better than people on here, or in fact know anything at all about exercise/form/kinesiology?
Meat science, dude. You've been duped.
If it did, it sounds like the author of it would be incredibly handsome.Wouldn't it be great if somebody created a whole thread about mobility? That would be awesome.