Sometimes I like to shout at my steak before I cook it, as it makes it taste better.
Halal Food - WTF?
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Sometimes I like to shout at my steak before I cook it, as it makes it taste better.
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Most of the meat food chain becomes inhumane well before the slaughter. Regardless of the way it is done, more often than not, it is the final insult.
I would be far happier knowing that the animal had a half decent life, than over 10 seconds of pain at the end.
I would be far happier knowing that the animal had a half decent life, than over 10 seconds of pain at the end.
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Think you need to buy fresher meat mate that or change where you buy you meat 
You don't understand why people would care about putting an animal through an immense amount of suffering when killing it vs doing it as swiftly as possible?
Supposing you were to be killed and given the option of method of death - would you want to chose a relatively painless option or one where you'd suffer immensely for your last minute or so?
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Chinese people don't wear ninja outfits and burn poppies. Also don't go around erecting mosques funnily enough.
99% of the people defending it are under the false impression that its more humane and have no understanding of the process either... often they launch into ignorant tirades because they're religious morons.
(yay lets make up statistics and add no value to the thread... forget 'facts' and stuff they just cloud opinions formed as a result of stereotypes etc..)
Indeed, mind boggles. Yet most of the people in here raging against Halal meat probably wouldnt do the same if they found out exactly how their meat was killed ie battery farming, bad conditions in which the animals are kept in...list goes on and on etc.
Hypocrisy for the win yo
Yeah no one has mentioned battery farming in here at all... oh wait no - no go back to the first page... yes you're talking complete BS
I also notice you were agreeing with the guy claiming that halal was more humane...
But this isn't the same situation at all... You're comparing the death of a human being for no good reason versus the death of an animal for its meat. On top of that, killing a human has so many more implications and considerations in terms of humanity, morality, etc etc i.e. all the things that separate humans from other animals.
If you don't want an animal to suffer, then don't kill it. Simple as that. For want of a better word, it seems hypocritical that one would care about the method of killing an animal, when you're advocating the killing of it anyway, almost like it makes it better in some way?
I'm not at all condoning 'immense' amounts of suffering, we're not talking about torturing animals here. If anything, as someone already said, I'd care more about the animal having a decent standard of living rather than the difference of a few seconds at the time of slaughter.
I'm shocked at this thread!!!
There are some people talking crap in here that I don't already have on my ignore list
So much stupid it starts to hurt
Firstly, you have a choice to eat Halal or not, the vast majority of Halal food is clearly marked. If you are unsure of your local Indian restaurants being Halal or not, you could always ask before you buy.
KFC is not all Halal, they run particular restaurants as Halal and again they are clearly marked.
Derp!
http://www.kfc.co.uk/about-kfc/halal
Why you would not want to eat at a Halal KFC is beyond me. Have you seen the KFC process? It's disgusting anyway, the chickens are killed exactly the same way, the Halal bit makes no difference except the blessing.
I read that because Nandos are Halal that effects you ..how exactly? Don't go in Nandos then...derp.
How do you think people kill animals that are not being mass slaughtered by large food chains? I grew up on a farm and we killed and ate a lot of our animals eventually by ....... cutting their throats, just the same as millions and millions of people all over the world do in the name of.....food.
I guess you prefer shooting a lump of metal into an animals head (several times, sometimes) as it's clearly so much fluffier isn't it.
The bottom line is half of you half wits in here couldn't actually give a flying **** about animals and how they are killed.
It's the same half wits you will find in all of the immigration, Muslim, foreigner threads saying the same utterly half baked ****. In this thread we are now using animal treatment to attempt to justify our blatant Xenophobia, racism and lack of education.
There are some people talking crap in here that I don't already have on my ignore list
So much stupid it starts to hurt
Firstly, you have a choice to eat Halal or not, the vast majority of Halal food is clearly marked. If you are unsure of your local Indian restaurants being Halal or not, you could always ask before you buy.
KFC is not all Halal, they run particular restaurants as Halal and again they are clearly marked.
Derp!
http://www.kfc.co.uk/about-kfc/halal
Why you would not want to eat at a Halal KFC is beyond me. Have you seen the KFC process? It's disgusting anyway, the chickens are killed exactly the same way, the Halal bit makes no difference except the blessing.
I read that because Nandos are Halal that effects you ..how exactly? Don't go in Nandos then...derp.
How do you think people kill animals that are not being mass slaughtered by large food chains? I grew up on a farm and we killed and ate a lot of our animals eventually by ....... cutting their throats, just the same as millions and millions of people all over the world do in the name of.....food.
I guess you prefer shooting a lump of metal into an animals head (several times, sometimes) as it's clearly so much fluffier isn't it.
The bottom line is half of you half wits in here couldn't actually give a flying **** about animals and how they are killed.
It's the same half wits you will find in all of the immigration, Muslim, foreigner threads saying the same utterly half baked ****. In this thread we are now using animal treatment to attempt to justify our blatant Xenophobia, racism and lack of education.
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So basically it all depends on whether you think the Electric chair or beheading is the quicker way to die...?
I didn't say it was the same situation and the implications are irrelevant - it was a hypothetical situation... I think its abundantly obvious that no one wants a brutal death, we do have regulations over the killing of animals - having a loophole for some religious beliefs is a bit whacky - especially when there is seemingly no need for it to be there given that halal meat can involve the animal being stunned too.
You were seemingly struggling to understand why people would want animals to be killed humanely? As much as some people might have trouble with understanding the concept - not all people who eat meat want animals to suffer or to be kept inhumanely... there are plenty of people out there (myself included) who are not comfortable with battery farming for example.
The fact that an animal is going to die regardless doesn't mean that concerns over the way it should die are any less relevant than concerns over the way it is kept and treated during its life.
I decided to be a vegetarian about 3 years ago because I didn't enjoy the idea of eating meat. I only ever used to eat chicken (and only ever the breast) as I didn't really like the taste of other meat, but I also didn't like the idea of an animal being killed just for me to eat. I don't particularly miss meat, and there are tons of other options available nowadays, more so than there ever used to be. I'm a massive animal lover (hippy? 
) and I just don't like thinking that an animal has ever suffered just so I can eat it when I don't need to.
The whole Halal thing disgusts me though, I really dislike the idea of it. I remember a few years ago it was on the front page of the Sun with a cow with it's throat cut, just bleeding all over the floor (but still stood upright and fighting against the ropes they had ties it's legs with) and I just thought that was horrible, that the animal was conscious of what was happening to it, while going through such pain.
) and I just don't like thinking that an animal has ever suffered just so I can eat it when I don't need to. The whole Halal thing disgusts me though, I really dislike the idea of it. I remember a few years ago it was on the front page of the Sun with a cow with it's throat cut, just bleeding all over the floor (but still stood upright and fighting against the ropes they had ties it's legs with) and I just thought that was horrible, that the animal was conscious of what was happening to it, while going through such pain.
I'm not religious, I don't care for religion, I don't really care for the process in which the animal is killed unless it's suffering for the sake of suffering. The only thing I'm defending is people's choice and arguing against idiots that wade into the thread spouting xenophobic trash and talking about stoning.
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Perhaps it would be helpful if you were more specific and called out any blatant xenophobia instead of making gross generalizations about anyone in the thread who is taking a specific view.
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I don't have a huge problem with Halal or Kosher food. What I do have an issue with is having it sold without people being aware of it.
Halal food is served in lots of supermarkets and restaurants without our knowledge. It is also served in schools, prisons and other places.
If I went into a restaurant and discovered the meat was Halal it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I just don't like being denied to choice to eat it or not.
Halal food is served in lots of supermarkets and restaurants without our knowledge. It is also served in schools, prisons and other places.
If I went into a restaurant and discovered the meat was Halal it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I just don't like being denied to choice to eat it or not.
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How do Jews feel about eating Halal meat? How do Muslims feel about eating Kosher meat?
As long as it is labelled everyone is free to choose to eat it or not. I would be perfectly happy with 90% of meat being Halal as long as it said so on the label.
Yeah no one has mentioned battery farming in here at all... oh wait no - no go back to the first page... yes you're talking complete BS
I also notice you were agreeing with the guy claiming that halal was more humane...
Do take your rolleyes and kindly shove it where the sun dont shine
.As for my opinion that halal slaughter is more humane, i believe it is...whether or not you dont think it is, well again that is your opinion.
You made the claim that its not humane...please show me unrefutable evidence that is the case. Show me proof that the animal suffers from horrendous pain with scientific facts and numbers please. Until then you are talking complete and utter BS.