Halal, is it meat you're looking for?

tom_e said:
I'm he, I know what I said.
Please point out to me where it says being racist also includes discriminating against something other than race.
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Do you understand it doesn't need to be a race to be racist?
Do you understand mainly religions are an identification that makes racism easier. As the vast majority are not English origin.

The reason you said I was wrong is utterly wrong.
You said Muslims weren't a race, they aren't. But racism isn't about race in law.
 
Glaucus said:
But racism isn't about race in law.
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The legislation provides definitions of racial groups and religious groups in the following terms:

"A racial group means a group of persons defined by reference to race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins." The definition is wide and victims may come within the definition under more than one of the references. Gypsies and some travellers, refugees or asylum seekers or others from less visible minorities would be included within this definition. While Romany gypsies have long been recognised as a ethnic racial group (Commission for Racial Equality v Dutton [1989] QB 783), in more recent times and certainly since the first instance discrimination case of O'Leary v Punch Retail (HHJ Goldstein, Westminster County Court, 29 August 2000), Irish Travellers have also been considered an ethnic racial group. Whilst this has not been considered by an appellate criminal court, the O'Leary case is regarded as being persuasive if the point is ever taken.

There has been a legal ruling that Sikhs are included in the definition of a racial group (Mandla v Dowell-Lee [1983] 2 AC 548). In the Mandla case, reference is made to the judgment in King-Ansell v Police [1979] 2 NZLR 531 as being a persuasive authority for Jews being included in the definition of a racial group as well as a religious group. Although not criminal cases, further support for this proposition can be found in the cases of R v JFS [2009] UKSC 15 which related to the legality of the admission policy of a Jewish secondary school and Seide v Gillette Industries Ltd [1980] IRLR 427 in which an Employment Appeal Tribunal ruled that anti-semitic comments made by a fellow-worker were made because he was a member of the Jewish race, not because of his religion.

"A religious group means a group of persons defined by reference to religious belief or lack of religious belief. This includes Muslims, Hindus and Christians, and different sects within a religion." It also includes people who do not hold any religious beliefs at all.
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Are you sure? The CPS seem to disagree.
 
Halal meat or not, it doesn't really bother me.

I can see why people complain. I don't see the difficulty in labelling these things to make evrything crystal. I can also see why people would complain if a restaurant only served halal meat, guess it's all about having options.

Like many people have already said, I am more concerned with how the animal lived its life. But again, if I am truely honest with myself, I am not too bothered by that. If free range eggs/chicken and battery farmed eggs/chicken were next to each other (like they are) it's free range all day. But if I was hungover and in need of KFC/McDonalds... I probably won't enquire as to what kind of lives their animals lived.
 
Funny how halal meat never bothers anyone when they go for a curry! I really dont understand why it isnt labelled as such, surely it more jews and muslims would buy from tesco if they knew if the meat was halal.

Any why is only the pesky muslims being picked on when its the jews who eat meat killed in the same way
 
Tinders said:
Funny how halal meat never bothers anyone when they go for a curry! I really dont understand why it isnt labelled as such, surely it more jews and muslims would buy from tesco if they knew if the meat was halal.

Any why is only the pesky muslims being picked on when its the jews who eat meat killed in the same way
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Only orthodox jews. Not as many of them about.
 
Tinders said:
Funny how halal meat never bothers anyone when they go for a curry! I really dont understand why it isnt labelled as such, surely it more jews and muslims would buy from tesco if they knew if the meat was halal.

Any why is only the pesky muslims being picked on when its the jews who eat meat killed in the same way
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Why would the meat for a curry necessarily be halal? :confused:
 
XeNoN89 said:
I think they just need make it very clear by labeling the food as Halal. Then people can have a choice to eat it or not.
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Not if you're in pizza express :p


For me, chicken = chicken = chicken when it's cooked up and on my plate, all ends up the same way!
 
Tinders said:
Funny how halal meat never bothers anyone when they go for a curry! I really dont understand why it isnt labelled as such, surely it more jews and muslims would buy from tesco if they knew if the meat was halal.

Any why is only the pesky muslims being picked on when its the jews who eat meat killed in the same way
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It is labelled as halal. It's just cheaper to give everyone halal.
So halal stuff is labelled, and the rest is halal just unlabelled for the rest of us. Where is if it's halal then it should be labelled as such. although I'm mire concerned about stunning, thrasher than halal. So the methods of death should be labelled. No stunning, stunning, or killed instantly.
 
Tinders said:
Funny how halal meat never bothers anyone when they go for a curry! I really dont understand why it isnt labelled as such, surely it more jews and muslims would buy from tesco if they knew if the meat was halal.

Any why is only the pesky muslims being picked on when its the jews who eat meat killed in the same way
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Would all meat in curry houses be Halal? Or Kosher?
 
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