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Is that supposed to make a point? He's not actually done anything...
Well as he said... simply chucking money at it isn't his idea of working out how to sort grassroots, I don't really want to requote the whole post but his reasons are in there. Perhaps it's something he'll do when he retires? Who knows, who really cares?
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Wow, so you actually end up backing my point by quoting the fact that Hamilton still hasn't done anything. Like i said earlier in the thread, Hamilton is all talk and no action. Thanks for agreeing with me.
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It's because you're so smart!! Lol
oh dear oh dear. Not very good at this debating malarkey are you?
You're the one calling people dumb, how is that debating?
Getting into karting to provide a better future is like auditioning fort X Factor. For every star, there are thousands of people rejected. A complete waste of time.
He could use his reputation and influence to get young black kids interested in engineering, sciences and other subjects - so kids aspire to be more. But no, that's not particularly woke. It's easier to blame others and ponce around with a slogan T shirt.
In the event of a building burning down, would you?
A) Rush in there
B) Ascertain that there were potential victims, assess the situation, assess the available equipment and then take a course of action?
The lack of action does not necessarily mean the lack of intent for action.
The quotes above show a degree of understanding of the situation, an understanding of his current ignorance, a commitment to try and overcome that ignorance and a commitment to positive action when such a course is identified.
Perhaps he's currently using his status to show support and will do his own thing later? Perhaps he is a hypocrite, most people are. That was my point earlier.
I used to be a fan of Ham', but recently he's getting delusions of grandeur! Yes he can drive a car really fast and is one of the best F1 drivers, but to think, all of a sudden, that he now has some sort of calling is beyond infuriating for me.
Yes he's brought attention to this 'issue', as he sees it, but was there an 'issue' to start with. I didn't think there was anything like racism in F1 since I've watched it for the last 30 odd years. Of course there will be individuals that are, and will continue to be, racist in F1- but you can't change everyone.
Lewis drives for a company that used slaves for labour in world war 2, does he have anything to say about that?? Didn't Mercedes build the gas chambers used to kill 100's of thousands of jews, if not millions??
If he's so principled, then why not address that! Yes, everyone is a hypocrite about some-things, that's human nature, but this new era of 'cancel culture' has to stop. EVERYONE is entitled to THEIR own opinion wether you like it or not, offence is taken not given so if you are offended but what someone else says then you may need to take a deeper look inside because it MAY be your opinion that is wrong and not theirs.
In the wider world yes there is more of an issue with racism, but I'm sure that most of the younger people today are much less racist than their parents and especially their grand-parents - it just takes time.
Lewis is pee'd off that some don't kneel, id he'd have kept the same 'End Racism' shirt everyone else had on I think most, if not all, would have kneeled, but Lewis is different and had to make a point by putting on his 'BLM' thus becoming an ACTIVIST - which is what I think most of the people that are annoyed at, like Jackie Stewart.
He needs to shut up, take his $40-50m a year tax free per year back to Monaco in the company private jet and just think of all the ways he IS privileged. Win a couple more world championships, thus becoming the most successful in history, retire and then spend the rest of his life flying around the world living the high life that us mere mortals can only dream of!!
This will tarnish his legacy massively.
Yes he's brought attention to this 'issue', as he sees it, but was there an 'issue' to start with. I didn't think there was anything like racism in F1 since I've watched it for the last 30 odd years. Of course there will be individuals that are, and will continue to be, racist in F1- but you can't change everyone.
Lewis drives for a company that used slaves for labour in world war 2, does he have anything to say about that?? Didn't Mercedes build the gas chambers used to kill 100's of thousands of jews, if not millions??
If he's so principled, then why not address that! Yes, everyone is a hypocrite about some-things, that's human nature, but this new era of 'cancel culture' has to stop. EVERYONE is entitled to THEIR own opinion wether you like it or not, offence is taken not given so if you are offended but what someone else says then you may need to take a deeper look inside because it MAY be your opinion that is wrong and not theirs.
In the wider world yes there is more of an issue with racism, but I'm sure that most of the younger people today are much less racist than their parents and especially their grand-parents - it just takes time.
Lewis is pee'd off that some don't kneel, id he'd have kept the same 'End Racism' shirt everyone else had on I think most, if not all, would have kneeled, but Lewis is different and had to make a point by putting on his 'BLM' thus becoming an ACTIVIST - which is what I think most of the people that are annoyed at, like Jackie Stewart.
He needs to shut up, take his $40-50m a year tax free per year back to Monaco in the company private jet and just think of all the ways he IS privileged. Win a couple more world championships, thus becoming the most successful in history, retire and then spend the rest of his life flying around the world living the high life that us mere mortals can only dream of!!
This will tarnish his legacy massively.
I've got much more respect for people like Didier Drogba who use their fortunes to build schools etc in their home countries than bandwagon jumpers like Hamilton who won't even pay taxes in the country he claims to represent and who think that kneeling down makes them a great person. Mercedes are just hypocrites like most of the 'woke' corporations today exploiting Chinese slave labour whilst claiming to care about historical slavery.
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That stance counts for lots things, I agree, but racism isn't one of them.
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Simple - dumb people gonna dumb.
Can't say I am a huge fan of his public persona - it feels forced and somewhat hollow (BLM stuff aside) but as I have said before, his personal persona may be very different.
Live and let live. He is definitely an awesome driver and seems to be trying to use his status and influence for some good. Fair play to him.
I am a fan of Lewis, the guy has faults and I do wince at times, but who doesn't?
The guy has truly achieved and one of the greatest sportsmen and F1 drivers of all time.
No single driver will ever be regarded as the greatest, Senna, Fangio, Clark, Schumacher, Prost - irrespective, Lewis is firmly in the camp even if he beats Michael's records.
Personally, Lewis has connections and can influence change, but rather in a knee-jerk hurried way (drivers gathering around in a hap hazard way). Think the long game, walk the talk, and not just a photo op. Senna invested to help the less fortunate and yet at the time, (outside Brazil) little was known? It would be great to see someone of Lewis' influence really invest in the fight against inner city gang crime, I do think he could make a difference.
The guy has truly achieved and one of the greatest sportsmen and F1 drivers of all time.
No single driver will ever be regarded as the greatest, Senna, Fangio, Clark, Schumacher, Prost - irrespective, Lewis is firmly in the camp even if he beats Michael's records.
Personally, Lewis has connections and can influence change, but rather in a knee-jerk hurried way (drivers gathering around in a hap hazard way). Think the long game, walk the talk, and not just a photo op. Senna invested to help the less fortunate and yet at the time, (outside Brazil) little was known? It would be great to see someone of Lewis' influence really invest in the fight against inner city gang crime, I do think he could make a difference.
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I could understand it to begin with. He came into the sport, called backmarkers monkey's, disobeyed team orders leading to all the Alonso issues. He's also very emo. Add to that ITV F1 constantly every second they were on air talking about Leiws, bigging up Lewis, showing Lewis fluff pieces, and combined with JA commentary. It was enough to put anyone off. Then there was 2009 where he was hitting cars left right and centre when battling in the pack.
He's grown up a lot in terms of F1, and I used to dislike him in terms of F1, but the past years years I think he's been great for sport. He's still emo and jumps on every bandwagon going, but I don't pay attention to whatever he does outside of F1.
Ah see a drivers nationality means nothing to me. He could be from Mars for all I care. I've never understood support for someone or something just because they happened to be (un)lucky enough to be born in a particular country.
Say for example you find Scarlett Johansson attractive. Now if you learned that she was from Greenland rather than USA would make her less attractive to you, or if her ancestors were from Jordan rather than Scandinavia, would have an affect? Personally I'd be more put off that she can't pronounce her name properly.
He's grown up a lot in terms of F1, and I used to dislike him in terms of F1, but the past years years I think he's been great for sport. He's still emo and jumps on every bandwagon going, but I don't pay attention to whatever he does outside of F1.
Ah see a drivers nationality means nothing to me. He could be from Mars for all I care. I've never understood support for someone or something just because they happened to be (un)lucky enough to be born in a particular country.
Say for example you find Scarlett Johansson attractive. Now if you learned that she was from Greenland rather than USA would make her less attractive to you, or if her ancestors were from Jordan rather than Scandinavia, would have an affect? Personally I'd be more put off that she can't pronounce her name properly.
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He spent $1 million for a report that is already available.
He could have bought a shed load of Tony Karts for that.
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