Haswell -E Core i7-5960X, 5930K, 5820K specifications

[Boomstick777]

Imo guess around these prices,

5820K > £275 - £325
5930K > £425 - £475
5960X > £750 - £800

 

[ALXAndy]

We can only wait and see, I was basing my numbers on the 5820k being priced a little higher than the 4820k and on the basis that the 5850k has been up for pre-order in the states for $426 which works out to be £256, add on some VAT bringing it up to £307.

I can't see the 5820 being much more than £330, and if it is I simply wont buy one.

I can't see it being £300. It's a hex core. Hey, maybe I'll be wrong and maybe it will be but I just don't see it. This is a new socket, new board top end affair and I just can't see Intel letting a hex go for £300. Up until recently the 4790k was £270 odd, can't see £30 more for 33% extra. It's just not in Intel's vocabulary.

I also don't see DDR4 becoming cheaper at launch. If anything they will spout their usual nonsense about shortages, oh look a fire at the factory etc etc. If anything it will be more expensive, but again I could be wrong.

Put it this way.

If I am wrong (and I truly hope I am) it will be the first time I've ever been wrong about a launch ever.

TBH I don't care what it costs. It'll be at least six months before it's settled.

 

[Martini1991]

No chance the 5820 will be over 400 quid.
300 quid sounds about right.
The 4770K needs a price drop though

With X99, this could be when Intel start making more improvements to their price/performance (Although chances are it won't follow through till Broadwell i7 parts and Skylake. I think Skylake will bring a mainstream hex from Intel)

I could deffo see myself going for a 5820 set up.

 

[ALXAndy]

We can only wait and see, I was basing my numbers on the 5820k being priced a little higher than the 4820k and on the basis that the 5850k has been up for pre-order in the states for $426 which works out to be £256, add on some VAT bringing it up to £307.

I can't see the 5820 being much more than £330, and if it is I simply wont buy one.

But it isn't just VAT. You need to add on customs/import duties, shipping costs to the UK and god knows what else.

I mentioned elsewhere that I believe the 5820k to be a smokescreen product so that Intel can charge more for the 'real' 6 core CPU. Up until now they've charged roughly £450, so by rights the 5930k should be £450, or, around $450-$500. It isn't. They've put in a derped hex core to prop it up so that IMO they can break new ground on pricing.

They have no competition, so IMO this launch would not be worth it for any other reason that fleecing.

But hey, as I said, I could be wrong.

 

[ALXAndy]

No chance the 5820 will be over 400 quid.
300 quid sounds about right.
The 4770K needs a price drop though

With X99, this could be when Intel start making more improvements to their price/performance (Although chances are it won't follow through till Broadwell i7 parts and Skylake. I think Skylake will bring a mainstream hex from Intel)

I could deffo see myself going for a 5820 set up.

Why reduce the price ? hardly like AMD are going to come along and give them a problem is it?

Don't get me wrong I truly, really hope that there will be a hex core CPU for the cost of an 'olde worlde' quad core. That way eventually it will become standard and we will all reap the benefits. But I just don't see it. Why not have just released a £300 hex onto 1150 for example?

Even if it is £300 then it's still a shame. Even more so. Mostly because the platform itself needs to be affordable and this just won't be. Not to the masses.

 

[DazQ87]

TBH it's probably just me trying to be optimistic, if the 5820 comes in at about £400 I wont be surprised at all and simply wont buy one, on the basis that I set myself a personal barrier that I would only upgrade to an intel 6 core chip if they came in at the £300 mark.

I would have thought intel would want to encourage more people onto the X99 platform on the basis that people might want to upgrade to Broadwell-E whenever that emerges.

 

[ALXAndy]

TBH it's probably just me trying to be optimistic, if the 5820 comes in at about £400 I wont be surprised at all and simply wont buy one, on the basis that I set myself a personal barrier that I would only upgrade to an intel 6 core chip if they came in at the £300 mark.

I would have thought intel would want to encourage more people onto the X99 platform on the basis that people might want to upgrade to Broadwell-E whenever that emerges.

Intel don't need to encourage people to jump on their extreme end stuff. The enthusiasts won't be able to help themselves. This is why they do things like Devil's Canyon...

"Hey everyone, we really screwed up Haswell with the cheap TIM and terrible temps.. How about DEVIL'S CANYON ! where you can pay us again for our mistake... !"

And I was actually amazed to see people sell their Haswell and go DC. Some people will simply buy anything Intel make tbh.

I did some looking around and according to a Chinese source the 5820k will be 20% more expensive than the 4820k was. So hey, you all could be right, that means around £320 or so.

The issue I see is this. Right now you can easily get a 4930k for that price. It'll likely manage to offset itself easily by clocking slightly higher, and, it's got all of its bits intact.

TBH? hehe I'd be hawking that MM capitalising on others' desperate need to have the latest tech.

I can't see the 5820k blowing away the 4930k in any means.

 

[Martini1991]

We'll see, it's illogical to raise the entry CPU price by almost 200 quid on the socket though, and the X8XX isn't the full fat thing, in the 5820's case, it's a hex-core but slightly cut.

Wait till it launches, but I think anyone expecting 400 and over is wrong.

 

[ALXAndy]

We'll see, it's illogical to raise the entry CPU price by almost 200 quid on the socket though, and the X8XX isn't the full fat thing, in the 5820's case, it's a hex-core but slightly cut.

Wait till it launches, but I think anyone expecting 400 and over is wrong.

From the X99 price thread.

£200+ for the boards.

£400+ for the good CPUs, none of that four core+HT rubbish.

Which at first I took with a pinch of salt but then I saw this...

Asus have a white X99 board, hope your wallets are prepared for this.

Which as of now I've not even heard about, let alone seen any price indication.

Thus, Stulid clearly knows more than we do. Not exactly sure what he means by -

£400+ for the good CPUs, none of that four core+HT rubbish.

But to me that sounds like the 5820k. I doubt he will clarify as he's obviously on a tightrope here with NDA etc but if what he says equates then the 5820k will be priced as I suspected it to be, propping up a way for Intel to charge more than the 4930k for its true successor.

Time will tell, but as I said, as cynical and pessimistic as I am I've never been wrong about a launch, not even in the past 35 years.

 

[LambChop]

Why dont you put up then Andy ?

 

[Martini1991]

None of them are 4C/4T.
Unless there's some secret 4C/8T chip on X99 no one's ever mentioned.

So, Stu's comment doesn't make massive sense (Not that I think his word is *absolute* anyway, regardless of him being more privy to info than you or I.)

And on the white board ; http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-white-tuf-m.2-computex,26974.html. Not exactly secret.

And I'm not going to get into the minefield of "Never wrong about a launch in 35 years".

 

[Combat Fighter]

I'm hoping the 5820k will be the new i920 and last me many years!

 

[LambChop]

Whats the point in a white board ? Can I look at it while gaming ? Never understood the colour stuff, and to pay more for it ? that's brilliant business.

 

[kael13]

I can't see it being £300. It's a hex core. Hey, maybe I'll be wrong and maybe it will be but I just don't see it. This is a new socket, new board top end affair and I just can't see Intel letting a hex go for £300. Up until recently the 4790k was £270 odd, can't see £30 more for 33% extra. It's just not in Intel's vocabulary.

I also don't see DDR4 becoming cheaper at launch. If anything they will spout their usual nonsense about shortages, oh look a fire at the factory etc etc. If anything it will be more expensive, but again I could be wrong.

Put it this way.

If I am wrong (and I truly hope I am) it will be the first time I've ever been wrong about a launch ever.

TBH I don't care what it costs. It'll be at least six months before it's settled.

Thing is with the CPUs, the price of entry is much higher, so that £30 extra on the CPU translates to a whole lot more minimum spend on the mobo and DDR4 RAM.

The 5820k being only slightly more than the 4790k is reasonable.

 

[ALXAndy]

Thing is with the CPUs, the price of entry is much higher, so that £30 extra on the CPU translates to a whole lot more minimum spend on the mobo and DDR4 RAM.

The 5820k being only slightly more than the 4790k is reasonable.

Since when have CPU manus been reasonable?

When Sandy launched Bulldozer was not out yet. I wouldn't say Intel were worried as no doubt they'd have had their research devs get their hands on some Magny Cours CPUs and see what sort of thing AMD could do with them.

So Sandy was a bit of a "let's see..." release. It was very similar with the ATI 58x0 cards. ATI did not know what Nvidia were going to do, so set a tentative price. Then when they saw no reply from Nvidia all of a sudden prices went up a smidgen

Since Sandy Intel have had the stage all to themselves, so, in theory can charge whatever they like (as they do with their Xeon products).

Don't be expecting reasonable, nice, fair or kind on this launch. It never happens ever . X58 - sell a kidney. X79 - sell a kidney and your right nut. Repeat ad nauseum.

 

[ALXAndy]

None of them are 4C/4T.
Unless there's some secret 4C/8T chip on X99 no one's ever mentioned.

It's quite possible really. Intel have always been kinda lame when it comes to variations on their high end boards. Maybe this time they will build a vast range?

I doubt it though.

So, Stu's comment doesn't make massive sense (Not that I think his word is *absolute* anyway, regardless of him being more privy to info than you or I.)

And on the white board ; http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-white-tuf-m.2-computex,26974.html. Not exactly secret.

And I'm not going to get into the minefield of "Never wrong about a launch in 35 years".

Well he's obviously far more privvy than you or I. That's just plain obvious. He's said what he thinks prices will be, I believe him over rumours. OCUK will know *exactly* what prices will be and will already be doing deals.

As for being wrong? the market is too predictable. Bend over, you can have the latest and greatest. Always the same. On every launch people get all excited, then reviews and prices begin to fly out, then the excuses come.

Seen it a million times before.

 

[Boomstick777]

Everybody knows the high end is expensive Andy, it's not as if you're revealing some amazing fact. Shockingly we are already aware that high end = expensive. Thankfully Intel have the gaming market sown up with i5's and i7's CPU's and they are competitively priced even without a direct competitor.

If people want to buy and enjoy Haswell -E, why not just let them do that without spouting doom and gloom with every post you make in this thread.

In fact if you don't care about Intel's expensive high end, why are you even in here posting this stuff?

We get it, you think it's overpriced. That's great now move on, let everyone else get on with what they want.

 

[ALXAndy]

Everybody knows the high end is expensive Andy, it's not as if you're revealing some amazing fact. Shockingly we are already aware that high end = expensive. Thankfully Intel have the gaming market sown up with i5's and i7's CPU's and they are competitively priced even without a direct competitor.

If people want to buy and enjoy Haswell -E, why not just let them do that without spouting doom and gloom with every post you make in this thread.

In fact if you don't care about Intel's expensive high end, why are you even in here posting this stuff?

We get it, you think it's overpriced. That's great now move on, let everyone else get on with what they want.

Stop being an idealist. If you don't like my posts then quite simply, don't read 'em.

Sorry, but I refuse to back down and join in the rimming fest.

I have my opinions and my thoughts and I'm screwed if I'm going to keep quiet.

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As for Intel's high end? I own it. I got it cheap too.

 

[Martini1991]

I'll say 5820, anywhere from 300-350.
5930 anywhere from 450-500.

 

[Mal X]

I'm hoping the 5820k will be the new i920 and last me many years!

it wont if it's like mine, because to last years it'll need to be very similar to the i5 2500.... strong as an Ox and dead easy to overclock, but no it'll be another Intel rip off, way too expensive only 5% faster and rubbish to overclock..... dont get suckered in like i was.

i got my i5 last night up to 4.4 by mistake, i wasn't even trying to overclock it, i was just fooling around in the Bios taking my first look at the ``Advanced Tweeking menu``..... i cant see my 4770 being as easy as this can you !!!!!!!!

right now it's at 27 degrees idol at 4.4....which is about 3 degrees cooler than the Xigmatek Aegir, which means the Dark Knight is slightly cooler than the Megahalems and in addition, it only as one fan at 1000 rpm.