Hazro - Any Update?

The fact is, I loved both the aesthetics of my Hazro (the glossy screen, the aluminium casing) AND the bright, vivid picture prior to the firmware update. The vertical banding didn't even really bother me - I don't use the screen for photo editing - but as there was a free fix available, I jumped on the bandwagon. Now I wish I hadn't. When Hazro get back to me after the weekend, I'm seriously considering asking them to revert my screen back to the older firmware. The difference in brightness across the screen cannot be a hardware fault since it didn't exist prior to the software upgrade. So hopefully going back to version 1.0 should fix the problem. Then I'll just have to lump the slight banding (as everything else is perfect, imo).

On the topic of alternative monitors, the only one in this size bracket that appeals to me is the HP IPS screen. Now I've tasted IPS at 24", there's no way I'd go back to PVA or MVA or TFN. I've owned several of Dell's 240x screens, and the image quality comes nowhere near that which the Hazro outputs. Looking at the HP, everything about the picture it produces appeals to me, bar this issue people are having with its colours. I'm not really into software image calibration, so it could be a real issue for me.
 
daddyorchips said:
When Hazro get back to me after the weekend, I'm seriously considering asking them to revert my screen back to the older firmware. The difference in brightness across the screen cannot be a hardware fault since it didn't exist prior to the software upgrade.
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Sorry if it's a silly question, but are you sure they actually sent you back the same screen?
 
CaptainCrash said:
Sorry if it's a silly question, but are you sure they actually sent you back the same screen?
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Good point.

I actually made a small etching in the base of the stand (a slight scratch) prior to sending it off, which is still there now that it's come back. The serial number of the screen is the same bar one unit - an 'S' instead of a '5' - though now I'm wondering whether I may have got it wrong in the first place (both characters are pretty damn similar).

Roll on Monday and we'll see.
 
Are there any other 30" owners who can comment on the IQ on their monitor? I've still not seen anyone mention if the issues relating to the 24/26" models are also present on the 30"

Thanks
 
OCdude said:
Are there any other 30" owners who can comment on the IQ on their monitor? I've still not seen anyone mention if the issues relating to the 24/26" models are also present on the 30"

Thanks
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No, as it hasn't gone through an update and is still a Rev 1 model (non i), look at the review on TFTCentral for more details. Like most 30" panels it suffers slightly from uniformity (LG obviously have a few problems making CCFL backlighting work well over such a large area).
 
I have a 23" that had balcklight uniformity problem since day 1; but I sort of half got used to that. However now the screen has developed "dark areas"; one of them bang in the center, and the side are also pretty bad.
These won't diseapear if I turn the screen off overnight.

Anyone experienced that, and had a successful RMA with Hazro ?
 
Finally got mine back...

Well, I'm hearing everyone's woes and I'd figure I'd add an update to my situation as well.

I got back the exact same screen as the one I sent in. My mark is still on the back of casing. The front casing is replaced, and the Hazro name looks better, but there is now a dent on the top of my screen. It looks like someone nicked it with metal cutters. Oh well, cant see it unless i look for it.

No dead pixels :D!

The dimmer screen does take some getting used to, but I do believe I will get used to it, and my eyes are no longer watering. I seriously could not stare at the screen for more than 10 mins when the lamps were so high. It was good for TV watching from far away, but not for computer use.

I have the Hazro 2.0 firmware (at least that is what it says) but I see no s-video option so I believe it is still the latest. The behavior of the monitor IS a little different. For example: if the refresh rate is beyond what the monitor can handle it will flash occasionally until it goes down. Still nothing that cant be handled.

And speaking of the refresh rate, green snow, and dealing with it: it is not fixed. I'm really sorry to say it but it is true that the green snow is not gone. My monitor got the shielding and it helped allot: no major snow storms, no vertical lines, no green screen of death. However, there are still moments when 2 to 3 pixels start flashing, maybe more depending on the pattern. I have been experimenting with Powerstrip to lower the refesh rate step by step and it also helps (most of the time). There are, however, still two issues with this fix.

1. The settings that worked that last time the screen was powered up most likely will not work the next time it is powered up, requiring a new calibration.

2. There is a limit to how low the slider will go. a refresh rate of 59.01 hertz is as far as I can go before the monitor starts acting funky. If I dont find the solution before that point then this time at the computer has to have snow.

The good news is the longer I use it the less often snow will appear. Same goes for if the screen is powered on for a long time and the temperature changes. Still cant depend on that though.

So am I still keeping the monitor? Heck ya! It still is the best of what is out there until OLED or (in the more recent future) Apples Cinema Display with LED tech. That is probably going to be the panel type for the next Hazro as well.

But I cant wait that long. So I still think this is the best buy I can get. I tried the HP wide-gamut while this monitor was getting fixed and I just couldn't get used to it. Anything not wide gamut looked so dull that no color calibration was going to help.

Don't get me wrong. I still think the HP is still miles ahead in quality, but the Hazro has the right screen for me. It has better clarity, better scaling, better ascetics, and better colors for the material I deal with. I don't recommend this screen to anyone that wants it to "just work", for that get the HP. But if you are willing to tweak it and take a chance, I say get the Hazro (or keep waiting).
 
Any marks on shiny things makes me go OMG and the Hazro does it often when dust or debris land on it! cleaning it is a bit of a paint but when I look at the IQ I forget all that :p
 
Iv been reading this thread from the begining and waiting to see the outcome as to whether its a wise decision to buy one?

mrk nearly had me buying one but i stopped just as the problems were being found. thnx mrk ;D

as the panel problems have mostly been rectified could i ask as i dont hear many people complaining is it mainly the 24" hazro that is suffering as i was looking at the 26" model which not many people have critised on this thread or is it in the same boat??

i maybe would have said the 30" but i think thats just too high price.:eek:

anyway im looking for a nice large screened hi grade monitor and thought id found it so am i advied to go ahead and ride out the storm with the 26" or are there any alternatives monitor brands? Nec newest is too much for me:mad:

have £500-600

wide gammut not a bother,
will not be using for anything like photography just games and everyday use.
requirement good panel with low lag,
low ghosting the better,
nice colours,
large screen

you only buy one decent panel so it should be the best you can afford i always say.



thanks
 
Well since getting mine back I've not seen any of the green snow since that day and no other issues since. Everything seems to be working just fine :)
 
thanx mrk,

by the way have you had any experiences with the NEC LCD2690WUXi 26"

as to the quality of it??

and hows you hp?? in you opinion is it just the gammut thats holding the hp back from the hazro besides blacks that is??

i only ask as you bought one as i read in the hp thread and then in this thread said it wasnt as good after using it for a period, tho it started off good.
 
Do any of the Hazro have any sort of custom scaling? I like chopping off the sides of 16:9 content so that it fillls up the screen entirely on a 16:10 monitor. Yes I know I'm actually seeing less and might get a slight image degradation but my brain thinks it's seeing more. It's like a placebo effect.
 
Armatoste said:
Do any of the Hazro have any sort of custom scaling? I like chopping off the sides of 16:9 content so that it fillls up the screen entirely on a 16:10 monitor. Yes I know I'm actually seeing less and might get a slight image degradation but my brain thinks it's seeing more. It's like a placebo effect.
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If you are trying to display a 1920x1080 picture you have the choice to Stretch it vertically or display it 1:1 pixel mapped( black bars top and bottom.
1920x1080 is the only 16:9 res that supports 1:1 pixel mapping others like 1680x1050 are stretched to fit with black bars top and bottom.
 
Hi all.

Well i have been checking this thread for a while and decided to go ahead and order the hazro 24wi, its def version 2.0 had no green snow of any kind, no banding issues or iffy pixels, its basically bloody amazing screen, gaming, blu ray movies its just a stunning screen.

Best money ive spent on hardware so far had it about 1 week now and its spot on.
 
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Please can anyone let me know if they use this screen with an xbox 360 and whether or not they get any green snow.

Thanks
 
My mate brought his xbox 360 around at the weekend, got some HD (1080p) gaming in, playing Halo 3, force Unleashed and Too Human.

We used HDMI, and I didn't see any snow after 3 hours gaming.

After getting my screen back I've noticed far less snow, I don't get it in the places I used to ALWAYS get it. I still noticed it in some places though.

I'm just waiting for them to release their magic PDF before getting powerstrip installed :D
 
HornyRhino said:
Iv been reading this thread from the begining and waiting to see the outcome as to whether its a wise decision to buy one?

mrk nearly had me buying one but i stopped just as the problems were being found. thnx mrk ;D

as the panel problems have mostly been rectified could i ask as i dont hear many people complaining is it mainly the 24" hazro that is suffering as i was looking at the 26" model which not many people have critised on this thread or is it in the same boat??

i maybe would have said the 30" but i think thats just too high price.:eek:

anyway im looking for a nice large screened hi grade monitor and thought id found it so am i advied to go ahead and ride out the storm with the 26" or are there any alternatives monitor brands? Nec newest is too much for me:mad:

have £500-600

wide gammut not a bother,
will not be using for anything like photography just games and everyday use.
requirement good panel with low lag,
low ghosting the better,
nice colours,
large screen

you only buy one decent panel so it should be the best you can afford i always say.



thanks
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Totally agree...this is exactly what I'm in the market for.

I'm extremely tempted to order one of the HZ26Wi's whilst the OcUK's 6% off deal is still in play for the next couple of days (giving you a £30 discount).

However, I know the current firmware will have banding issues (as I believe the 26" version has yet to be upgraded) but I don't like the sound of the lower brightness as a trade off :(
 
oh and i also forgot to ask..

mrk (my quality control :D)

since by sheer greed:p you have both the hp and the hazo is there any possiblity in getting a picture with them both together or a screen shot of both seperately only just to see the differece wide gammut makes? as im still not shure about it...apart from the obvious in that the colours cover more of the screen and are more pronounced (way stronger)...

for example is it like the difference between a composite connectin on a tv and then switching to rgb?

i have that option on my Ntl tv box and the colours are way stronger on rgb than composite.

thanx. :cool:
 
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