Hazro series - HZ30Wi, HZ30WiQ, HZ27WA, HZ27WB & HZ27WC

FlyingPig · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:45

reddev85 said:
But even one single faulty pixel, even if it wasn't that noticeable would drive me crazy because I would always know it was there, even if it wasn't immediately visible - perhaps a slight touch of OCD.

I am hoping that is not the case for me. I don't think I could be bothered about a few dead pixels at a bargain price, which I suppose is the whole business model of Hazro. I am perfectly happy to accept some minor annoyances at a price that is quite a bit lower than similar models with better quality control. I just need the extra resolution to get some serious work done, but I don't have the budget for it.

(famous last words)

Still, it's the luck of the draw element that is annoying to most people, I suppose.

My bargain B-grade HZ27WC has a UPS ticket now, should be here after the weekend...

Axeia · 9 Feb 2012 at 20:07

hazro said:
HDCP stuff

I must say I do like answers such as these, some insight into why certain choices are made makes it much easier to accept them.

Still hoping for a 24" glossy IPS, nothing that Hazro can do to fix the quality issues with the 24" model that wont come out? A different panel, anything?

hazro · 9 Feb 2012 at 21:35

Axeia said:
Still hoping for a 24" glossy IPS, nothing that Hazro can do to fix the quality issues with the 24" model that wont come out? A different panel, anything?

It is buggy but we're thinking of stripping the unit to a single DVI port only, remove OSD, etc.

toxicredcat · 10 Feb 2012 at 19:56

Well my B-Grade WZ27WC arrived today, some very minor damage to the stand (and wrong screws provided) but other wise its in good physical nick.

EDIT: Working now - see post #2790

Axeia · 10 Feb 2012 at 20:58

Are you certain at least one of those cables is a dual link DVI cable? Your avarage run of the mill DVI cable wont work and it seems unlikely you would just happen to have 3 dual link ones.

hazro said:
It is buggy but we're thinking of stripping the unit to a single DVI port only, remove OSD, etc.

As long as a VESA mount option isn't stripped away it's all good.

Surveyor · 10 Feb 2012 at 21:07

Axeia said:
Are you certain at least one of those cables is a dual link DVI cable? Your avarage run of the mill DVI cable wont work and it seems unlikely you would just happen to have 3 dual link ones.

Also only one of the DVI connectors on the HD 6950 is dual link (assuming it's an Asus card with 2 and not 1).

It needs the correct cable in the correct connector.

toxicredcat · 10 Feb 2012 at 21:33

Yes all 3 cables are dual-link (used to own 30" monitors) and I've tried all 3 cables on both DVI outputs on the GPU.

Windows recognises it as a SyncMaster now with a max output of 1080p but I still can't get it to display a picture

FlyingPig · 10 Feb 2012 at 23:29

toxicredcat said:
Well my B-Grade WZ27WC arrived today, some very minor damage to the stand (and wrong screws provided) but other wise its in good physical nick.

I can't comment on the quality of the screen as it doesn't work -.- Tried 3 different cables, re-installing drivers, unplugging it then plugging it back in etc etc and its not recognised in Windows. The hardware detected sound plays when its plugged in/out but nothing else, it just sits there with the blue power light flashing.

If you force it to extend the desktop the backlight comes on but no image is displayed.

Any ideas? GPU is an ASUS 6950. Will try an old HD3450 in a bit.

Oh dear, that is promising for mine then... My B-Grade WZ27WC is a few towns away, UPS says delivery on Monday but I hope they will do it tomorrow.

Knock wood...

toxicredcat · 11 Feb 2012 at 09:59

After about 6 hours of trying every possible cable/driver/setting I could think of I've finally got it working! Flicked the dual BIOS switch on the 6950 and it came to life and I now have a smile on my face

The display is fantastic and there's no noticeable backlight bleed and the brightness/colours are perfect.

So far I can make out 2 dead pixels and one stuck pixel. There's a small speck of dust on the left side of the screen which you can only spot if you're looking for it but there is 2mm black line behind the screen in the top left which I assume is a large bit of dirt. Its on the edge of the screen so not a big deal really.

Overall I'm very happy with the B-Grade purchase. For the price the minor flaws are insignificant and don't seem to be any worse than some of the new monitors being sent out.

Stab · 11 Feb 2012 at 12:25

I am also considering buying a Hazro WC version.

- Is there anyone in here with a HD 6870 graphics card? And can you tell me how it works with that card? Can i boot the computer with the monitor turned on? Will i be able to enter the bios and see what I am doing?

- Does the stand make the monitor wobble / shake when you type on the keyboard? My current monitor does that

- Is playing BF3 on a 6870 possible on the native resolution? How many fps will i get on medium settings?
And will it look soft and jaggy if i play on 1920x1080?

Thanks!

Metalface Mark · 12 Feb 2012 at 12:59

Had my hazro just over a month now (27" WC) Quite simply the best monitor ive ever owned and cant praise it highly enough, this thread did make me hesitant but was only gonna cost me £15 to send back if it wasnt perfect, fortunately it is, no dead pixels, no other problems.

FlyingPig · 13 Feb 2012 at 12:54

Well my Hazro 27 WC arrived today (B-grade, got it for 290GBP including tax and delivery). I first connected it with the DVI cable of my LG 23" IPS screen and was horrified to find a very bad picture, with purple/red stripes all over the place. As I was getting ready to take pictures and become an angry customer, I thought it may be an idea to connect it with the supplied DVI (dual) cable and lo and behold, it works beautifully now!
Being a B-grade, the screen was actually very dirty so I had to clean it up but now I am staring at a very nice picture indeed. I thought a few times I had a dead/stuck pixel but they turned out to be some dust that was easily removed with some cloth. I have only done a few very superficial tests online but so far I don't think I have any dead pixels at all.
The only downside is this screen next to my Hanss G 27.5" puts the resolution of the Hanns G to shame, and the latter looks really washed out now. Movies look a lot better on the Hazro and the extra screen space is very welcome for office work. I haven't done any gaming on it yet, but so far I am extremely happy I took the risk of ordering 1) a Hazro 2) a B-grade Hazro

I am sitting right next to a window and there are a few reflections, but they don't disturb me at all (and I am usually very picky about that) as it seems the non-glass Hazro is a good compromise between vibrancy and reflections.
Let's just hope it doesn't pack up after 6 months as the warranty is only valid for that period.

tsinc80697 · 13 Feb 2012 at 14:15

Just having a quick skimread of the thread as I'm currently deciding between Hazro, Dell U27 or Apple Cinema Display, is the overall feeling the Hazro is good, if you get a decent one? Is their customer service not upto much either with regards to sending 1 or more monitors back if you're unhappy?

crinkleshoes · 13 Feb 2012 at 14:37

If you get a good one, great... if you don't, uh oh

The Hazro is currently £450, the Dell... £560

The 3 year next business day warranty is worth the extra £110 by itself in my opinion. But you also get an adjustable stand that I'd price at ~£50, then the 0 dead pixel guarantee, multiple inputs.

The only compromise, IMO, with the Dell is the AG coating & that's something you get used to quickly... or is especially useful if you plan to use in a bright environment.

At current pricing, the Dell is most definitely worth the extra.

When you get the special offers on the Hazro though - the gap widens quite a bit more and it'll be up to personal preference what you aim for.

tsinc80697 · 13 Feb 2012 at 14:50

I've found the Dell for £515 so even better price wise but the thing putting me off is the AG coating. It's going to be used alongside a glossy Macbook Pro so I was wanting to have both screens showing similar image quality/colors and I've seen a few people complain about the AG coating. If only the ACD was more reasonably priced!

edit:

Also, is it worth going for the 10 bit over 8 bit Hazro if I do go down that route?

crinkleshoes · 13 Feb 2012 at 14:52

AG really isn't something to worry about - just a slight compromise...

Axeia · 13 Feb 2012 at 16:14

tsinc80697 said:
Just having a quick skimread of the thread as I'm currently deciding between Hazro, Dell U27 or Apple Cinema Display, is the overall feeling the Hazro is good, if you get a decent one? Is their customer service not upto much either with regards to sending 1 or more monitors back if you're unhappy?

Just make sure you check out it properly in the first 7 days (run a dead pixel checker, check all possible inputs, check for other defects, etc, etc). If it isn't up to snuff simply send it back to OC UK under DSR.

tsinc80697 said:
Also, is it worth going for the 10 bit over 8 bit Hazro if I do go down that route?

The ACD is only 8 bit as well, don't know what your intended use is but for 99% of the people that buy these it wont make a difference and certainly isn't worth the much higher price tag of the WD. If you need several inputs get the WD, if not the WC is the much more attractive option due to the massive price difference.

From the forum rules on what not to do
"Hinting about product availability at competitors and their pricing"
So you might want to edit your post.

crinkleshoes said:
AG really isn't something to worry about - just a slight compromise...

I completely disagree on you with with the AG-coating being only a slight compromise. It's the sole reason I got a Hazro for uhm, reasons I can't mention due to the forum policy. The u2711 was a far more attractive option if it wasn't for the AG-coating.

If you only use matte monitors it would be something you'd get used to after a while. When combining multiple monitors and having a mix of both glossy/matte the matte ones are guaranteed to look dirty and lack a bit of a punch to them colourwise.

crinkleshoes · 13 Feb 2012 at 17:45

Axeia said:
I completely disagree on you with with the AG-coating being only a slight compromise. It's the sole reason I got a Hazro for uhm, reasons I can't mention due to the forum policy. The u2711 was a far more attractive option if it wasn't for the AG-coating.

If you only use matte monitors it would be something you'd get used to after a while. When combining multiple monitors and having a mix of both glossy/matte the matte ones are guaranteed to look dirty and lack a bit of a punch to them colourwise.

I'm only comparing matte to matte... so wouldn't take in to account the glass version, which is being discontinued anyway...

That's a completely different thing to compare... matte vs glossy/glass - the AG doesn't even enter in to it, really :confused:

If you're used to matte monitors (and, in fact, prefer them - like me)... the AG coating doesn't stand out as being over the top.

Dell don't do a glass version...

Axeia · 13 Feb 2012 at 18:11

I didn't even mention a glass version? The only matte 27" is the WB.

Crezzlin · 14 Feb 2012 at 19:43

Does anyone have a Hazro HZ30Wie, Im llooking into setting up a portrait eyEfinity setup with thEm but not sure if the bezel is smaller on the Hazro over the Dell, could anyone tell me? Also I take it the screen will rotate to portrait on the stand? Thanks guys..