Hazro series - HZ30Wi, HZ30WiQ, HZ27WA, HZ27WB & HZ27WC

Got mine this morning, this monitor is fantastic! No dead/stuck pixels, no dust under the screen, fantastic colours, no noticeable backlight bleed; I'm stunned. There was what looked like a boot-shaped hole in the box, right in the centre of the screen, and it even had a little scuff mark on it but no permanent damage. Only downside I can see so far is that there's no HDCP support, but I can't see that being a problem for myself.

I thought I'd mention as well, I don't think my monitor has the 2H coating on it. The panel is perfectly reflective, like glass, but the brightness of the screen when in use stops it reflecting pretty much anything but a direct light shining at it.

Shame my graphics card doesn't like having two displays with different resolutions attached(it constantly runs at 3D clocks and therefore about 68 degrees), otherwise I'd keep one of my old monitors. It's not a huge loss though, the screen quality looks rubbish compared to this beast. I have just had my PC hang for the first time in a while, but I'm sure that's nothing to do with the monitor. Either way, I'd recommend these to anyone looking for a great hi-res monitor at a great price.
 
I'm rather surpised that AMD cards are still having problems. Hazro brought up the Issue with AMD last year and was told they'd look into it.

I've had my WC glass version since the summer of last year and it's been amazing. I've had nom problems at all.

The fact that AMD cards here and there still seem to have problems just means I'll probably get an Nvidia Kepler card as an upgrade.

Also on a note on the HDCP support, it's been brought up a few times. Get DVDFab Passkey, it bypasses the HDCP requirement and lets you play Blu-rays.
I got it on day one when my monitor arrived and I've been gaming and watching movies to my hearts content.

I'd still easily recommend this product to any person I know. As the ones that have seen it have all loved it.

The only one I'd recommend over it might be the Apple Cinema Display, simply because it'll have better warranty and suppport. Although with them moving away from Mini-Display ports it might pose a problem.
 
jimmy321 said:
I stand to be corrected but I believe the Apple's are not so good for gaming as they have a much lower response time.
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As far as I know both monitors use the same panel and having gamed on both I didn't really notice any lag or ghosting on the ACD compared to the Hazro.

Although as we know that's only opinion based, I'm sure there might be some tests out there showing the repsonse time for the ACD.

Also you were to compare the WD/A vs WC the WD/A has far more imput lag compared to the WC. Mostly due to its scalar and extras. As such I'd say the ACD might be around the same as the WD/A or inbetween the C or D.


EDIT: Found the review and comparisons

From TFT central: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hazro_hz27wa.htm
WA = average 26.3ms Max = 40ms
WC=Average 8.8ms Max = 20ms
Apple Cinema Display Average = 12.7ms
 
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N19h7m4r3 said:
As far as I know both monitors use the same panel and having gamed on both I didn't really notice any lag or ghosting on the ACD compared to the Hazro.

Although as we know that's only opinion based, I'm sure there might be some tests out there showing the repsonse time for the ACD.

Also you were to compare the WD/A vs WC the WD/A has far more imput lag compared to the WC. Mostly due to its scalar and extras. As such I'd say the ACD might be around the same as the WD/A or inbetween the C or D.


EDIT: Found the review and comparisons

From TFT central: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hazro_hz27wa.htm
WA = average 26.3ms Max = 40ms
WC=Average 8.8ms Max = 20ms
Apple Cinema Display Average = 12.7ms
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As with sensitivity to input lag there is wide variation amongst users in sensitivity to trailing or slow pixel responses. As I mentioned in my previous post the ACD lacks any sort of grey to grey response time acceleration. For both pixel responses and input lag this is not really down to the panel but more the assistive electronics driving it. People often make the mistake of assuming that the panels are the be all and end all of a monitor but a panel is just part of a monitor. If you were to measure the pixel responses of the Apple Cinema Display and compare them to the Hazro you would notice that over a large range (i.e. the transitions which the grey to grey acceleration of the Hazro improves) the ACD offers inferior performance. As I own the Apple LED Cinema Display and have compared it with a large number of monitors, including 120Hz TN panels and 60Hz IPS panels with grey to grey acceleration I have observed this on many occasions. If the Hazro monitors weren't comfortably ahead in this area then there would have been no need to implement grey to grey acceleration. Really the performance of modern non-overdriven IPS panel monitors is quite predictable and there is a good visual documentation on TFT Central and my own website showing the effect of grey to grey acceletation (or lack of it) on pixel performance.
 
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I'm considering the Hazro HZ27WC as a replacement to my U2410. I know it's only 8-bit versus 10-bit, though that's not really a concern.

However, I'd like to know how people handle gaming. I'm looking to upgrade my graphics (7970 or Kepler, then dual up later) but I really want every game to hit 60fps, which just isn't going to happen on a single card at 1440p. Therefore I'd be looking to play some games at 1200p but don't want the loss in image quality from non-native resolutions. Both nVidia and AMD drivers support scaling and the option to disable it so that you end up with a slightly smaller image in the centre of your screen - does anybody do this and how well does it work? My concern is that the border would be too distracting. I don't want to upgrade only to have lower performance or quality.
 
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Jazzerman said:
Interesting stuff, did you adjust the timings at all?
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Hi.

I used this timings:


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and voila 85Hz!


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I cant get any higher, because I use AMD GPU. AMD`s drivers impose a pixel clock limit of 330 MHz for dual-link DVI. If you guys have NVIDIA GPU, you can try even 100Hz boundary, because NVIDIA's driver lets you go past that with a custom resolution, up to the limit of 400 MHz pixel clock.

Please report to us, what can you get!:)
 
Jasonn said:
Could you, or indeed anyone else, please comment on the anti-glare coating on the 30 inch Hazro models? I'm interested in buying one after recently returning a Dell U2711 because of the harsh anti-glare coating so need to make sure this screen doesn't suffer from the same problem.

Thanks.
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I haven't had any issue, compared it to a few other screens and there doesn't appear to be much/any blurriness or texture to the white and greys. I would say if you are getting a 30inch hazro get the 10bit Hazro HZ30Wie - added brightness and gamut should do some good. The black levels on the 30inch hazros are nice enough to forget about :) which I guess is the bliss point. The dells are nice I've seen plenty of different models but the colours are at least the same and in my opinion better on the hazro - according to a tft central review the 30inch U3011 is slightly better at blacks than the HZ30Wi at lowest brightness though there is no review on the HZ30Wie - overall the image has more depth than i've seen through any lcd. The rest of the lcds next to me look flat in comparison to the hazro.
If you do buy the screen and you're unimpressed I'll chop off both my legs and use them as feet gloves to slap myself with.

- for everyone else
Running a 7950 and i've had no issues - triple monitor setup - starts on boot up.
 
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I can get 85Hz on my Hazro27WC, because I am running AMD:s GPU. If anyone has NVIDIA GPU and Hazro monitor, please give it a try, if you can get 100Hz on Hazro monitor. That would be awsome!

And also a little warning. This is what ToastyX said: " I ran the NEC EA231WMi at 83 Hz for over two years without problems, but not enough people have tried to know for sure if there are any long-term effects. "
 
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