ElRazur said:
Yet again, you dont seem to get it. Mixtapes is a way of showing your CV - what you are capable of without even been signed to a major record label, it is also done to gather a very strong fan base. Sway (UK) sold over 10000 mixtapes because his style is a fresh of breathe air amongst the UK rapper.
How can you call someone a mixtape rapper and yet you think he is not on par with eminem? Even his style is been comapred with BigL (one of the best ever) which if i remember correctly eminem paid tribute to when he won his first major award (also paid tribute to BIGgie, pac and big pun - he said he all learn from them).
Again there is nothing original about eminem's style - he rhyme from the mandible - so does pac in his early years and Slick rick. Papoose is clearly a walking dictionary and an english teacher al wrapped up in the body of one human, how dare you says he dosent even know what he is talking about? Yet he makes complete sense.
You think you know punchline? Go hear Cannibus, Jin, even papoose and then you will see what i mean.
Look eminem is a white guy doing what normally will be associated with a black dude in america - i.e sticking your middle finger up to the establishment and doing outlandish stuff. Vanilla ice did back then and it worked so why shouldnt it work for eminem? Dre saw this imo and took him on board. Without dre beats, why will he be today? Nowhere! Go and listen to album produced by eminem - Loyal to the game. He clearly dosent have a clue about beats. He messed up the whole album but on that same album go and check out "Po ***** blues" produced by Storch scott and then you will understand where am coming from.
This is my last take on this if you think emshady is better or the best, fine by me but i know whose CD i will buy and which i will bootleg.
EDIT
Royce Da 5 9 is bascially a black version of emimem. He just didnt have the luck the white version had. He is regarded as one of the best yet to come out of detriot.
No it is you who doesn't get it son, when did you start checking for Eminem, wait, when did you start listening to hip hop? I check for Papoose, i have done for a long time, infact im willing to bet a large amount i have listened to and know a lot more about him than you do, so don't talk to me about not getting "it", "it" is my life.
Now firstly, your talking about a Demo at the start of your arguement, not a mixtape, a mixtape is a cd of offcuts exclusives or remixes that havent been used to album projects when made by one artist, otherwise it is a compilation made by a DJ, being a mixtape rapper means you DONT make good album tracks, hence Saigon still not doing anything, cos he cant make proper tracks, thats what a mixtape rapper is.
Sway is pants, thats all i have to say about him, anyone who knows their UKHH will agree, so that tells me a fair bit about your hip hop knowledge and tastes.
Papoose is NOTHING like Big L, are you and idiot? The only thing slightly similar is their accents because they are from a similar area, but to an american not even that is similar, so who ever compared Paps style to Big L's is a tit.
Eminems multis and patterns and switches were completely unmatched when he first came out, his style was completely original, the way he wrote has nothing in anyway shape or form similar to Pacs, i doubt Pac knew what a multi was, do you know what a multi is?
Have you heard when papoose says "i stand tall like the palace of eiffel" now, im pretty sure, and you can check this if you like son, but im pretty sure its called EIFFEL TOWER not the palace of eiffel.
Canibus is wack for punchlines, so you have no legs to stand on there, with lines like "i make the crowd throw up their hands like they swallowed their fingers" i dont know how you cant credit him, comparing Jin's punchlines to Em's again is very stupid, if your gonna pick someone that is dope with punchlines, dont pick Jin he is weak, Vakill, Jakki, Copywrite maybe, but Jin and Canibus deffinately dont hit the mark mate.
You think he wouldnt be good without Dre? you heard Infinite? that was made before dre and is credited as his best album, you really dont have a leg to stand on here, so im not gonna bother.
The point about him being white is irrelevant, most Uk rappers are white, does that mean people are chucking record deals at them?
I have pretty much everything Pap has done, YOU DONT, i have everything Em has done, YOU DONT, your trying to tell me something when your opinion is obviously very uninformed.
Do you know anything about the technical aspects of writing? Anyone with any understanding knows that, Eminem in his prime was a better technical than Papoose, so either you dont have a clue, or you left your brain somewhere when you jumped into this arguement.
