Absolutely, let me pick one example (I have a few) because I don't want to derail this thread with an entirely different topic. I'll also use very broad strokes because, again, I don't want to derail things.
, you can carry on complaining about pride.Wtf has that got to do with heterosexuality? Pretty sure gay parents can and do do the same.Absolutely, let me pick one example (I have a few) because I don't want to derail this thread with an entirely different topic. I'll also use very broad strokes because, again, I don't want to derail things.
Parents who have messy breakups/divorces, or better yet stay together "for the children". My God, I think it is the single most effective way to **** up a child and still be legal.
I get it, relationships break down, people change etc, but the behaviour I have seen men and women do in this situation is absolutely shocking. I have seen, both as a child and now as an adult,
* a parent complain and whinge about the ex in front of their children (putting in mildly)
* parents who refused to communicate with each other and only exchange messages through the intermediary child
* parents who sulked for days over minute things that annoyed them
* parents who wouldn't even come to the door when taking a child between households
and I came from a relatively stable family! This is purely stuff I've seen through friends and extended family. I have no doubt there are people on this forum have worse personal stories to tell.
At some point these people decided to have a child together, Now they're acting worse than the child they're meant to raise! It is such a terrible example these people are setting for their children. In my fantasy world of infinite resources, this would be classified as child abuse and their should be severe repercussions for doing this. Of course it isn't because it is so common it's completely unenforceable.
To be clear I am not saying all divorces end this way, a lot end amicably which is the best of a bad situation. Also, I know sometimes people do unforgivable things that mean they deserve to be treated harshly by the other partner. However, in my experience most relationships end with neither party being squeaky clean. In general, if you can't treat the person you decided to have a child with with the most basic level of dignity and respect then you shouldn't be raising children.
Rant over
They can, but clearly it is a bigger problem in the heterosexual world than the homosexual one, purely by numbers if nothing else. I mean, by your argument my counter to your point of gays wearing "pink leather assless chaps" is that in pride straight people participate and I'm sure there is at least one example of one ending up in a state of undress.
I understood it perfectly thank you
, you missed my point.Trust me, a parent's negative reaction to a child coming out will do far more damage to a child than anything they could see at pride.
I understood it perfectly thank you
I never contested that sexual behaviour happens at pride, one of the whole points is to celebrate sexual diversity. I am absolutely sure you have attended many prides in your life and saw this "pink leather assless chaps" individual yourself.
My point was that homophobic people use this point as a "won't somebody think of the children!" argument. If you take the opportunity to criticise the behaviour of some at pride, I'm going to take the opportunity to criticise the significant minority of heterosexual people who actually harm their children on a continuing basis in a legal manner and is deemed acceptable in our heteronormative society.
Trust me, a parent's negative reaction to a child coming out will do far more damage to a child than anything they could see at pride.
We appear to be going around in circles.
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Of course it is an absurd argument, that is my point
. I wasn't seriously suggesting that the person you saw was straight. So please accept that it is equally absurd to suggest that the problem I raised equally impacts the gay and straight communities, it simply doesn't.Please don't present strawman arguments. My issue was comparing one culturally acceptable event (pride) to another (messy breakups), not criminal behaviour.
Of course it is an absurd argument, that is my point
Please don't present strawman arguments. My issue was comparing one culturally acceptable event (pride) to another (messy breakups), not criminal behaviour.
Anyway, I'm out. I think I made my point.
What behaviour is this, exactly?
Perhaps I should have made clearer that that the Straight behaviour is more common, being not limited to just one day a year, and seems far more tolerated than that of their Prideful brethren.
It reminds me of when I was a kid and my sister would get caught doing something wrong. She'd always bring up something I'd done to try and save her own hide.
