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"Hi yes I'd like to return this child"
"sir, this is a Wendy's"
"yes, as I said, I'd like to return this child"
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"sir, this is a Wendy's"
"yes, as I said, I'd like to return this child"
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Conservative Boomers: I don't like LGBT+ and trans media and people around my kids
Also Conservative boomers:
"OMG I love the movie Mrs. Doubtfire. That takes me back"
Also Conservative boomers:
"OMG I love the movie Mrs. Doubtfire. That takes me back"
Yup, like the "kink" at pride debates on twitter etc.. if you're going to have a parade in the daytime in a public space then perhaps the scantily clad fetish enthusiasts and the people taking part in public sex acts aren't really suitable if kids are brought along too. It's not doing anyone any favours to turn a blind eye to that sort of thing because you want to signal maximum virtue.
Ditto to drag stuff with kids, a drag queen doing storytime at the local library dressed modestly arguably isn't too different to kids going to see a Pantomime at Christmas where they can also see a bloke in drag being a bit camp playing the pantomime dame character... on the other hand scantily clad/overly sexual drag performances and/or kids actually going to a club, being sexualised and performing drag, twerking for adults etc.. is obviously pretty dodgy and deserves to be called out.
This sort of stuff being given a pass, people "yass queening" it just gives ammunition to religious homophobes who want to bad the lot of it.
Back to Saudi though, a backwards country with a backwards set of conservative religious beliefs so what do you expect I guess.
Equal rights does not mean gays are the same as straight people, that is as crazy as saying men and women are the same. The point of equal rights is not so that everyone conforms to the white heterosexual male view of the world, it's so we can be who we want to be without discrimination.
I hear this a lot from straight people and clearly there should be open discussions behaviour, regardless of who you are and what group you are talking about. As long as it is not insensitive and constructive then we're all good imo. The thing is though this is a two way street, there are behaviours related to sex and relationships which are tolerated in the heteronormative western society which quite frankly shouldn't be. When I've raised these issues in the past to straight people, often the response is "oh but I/the majority don't do that", and then I hope they appreciate how a gay person feels being asked to defend or apologise for the actions of a minority of people in our community.
The difference is you tend not to get parades or prime-time TV shows focused on inappropriate heterosexual behaviour. Tbh you might have to give us some examples of what you mean.
As an example of what I'm talking about, why does a guy need to parade through the middle of a city centre in the middle of the day wearing bright pink leather assless chaps whilst straddling a guy in a full vinyl leather gimp suit?
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Couldn’t you just say that it’s adults dressing up?
Like, I hear you but kids don’t look at dressed up adults and think “yeah, that’s kinky AF”.
It’s just like you contextualising that excessively drunk uncle at the party who gropes all of the women or swearing or the occasional time they might see boobs in a movie or violence on TV.
Like, it’s not hard to sit down with your kids and tell them that there are some things that they will understand when they are older and give them enough info to support their understanding of the world without destroying their innocence.
You can’t wrap your kids in bubble wrap and hide them from the world.
There are behaviours that ALL adults do that impact to kids development.
One of the worst ones is repressing emotions because “you’re a man” and “big boys don’t cry” and then wondering why men suffer so disproportionately from suicide.
And don’t get me started on the “boys will be boys” phrase, that’s just enabling rape culture.
You could say that, but as I mentioned previously if I were to walk down the street like that on Tuesday afternoon I'd sharp get taken aside by a police officer for a friendly chat because its not socially acceptable. It is not a normal thing to be walking around with your backside out and Dave on a leash, whether you're straight or gay.
And you're right, kids are often too mollycoddled these days but there are also limits. Death is a natural part of life, its often horrible, should we parade kids through palliative care wards?
Conservative Boomers: I don't like LGBT+ and trans media and people around my kids
Also Conservative boomers:
"OMG I love the movie Mrs. Doubtfire. That takes me back"
How can parent's have subjected their children to this monstrosity of a film back then?.....
The rights sudden obsession with drag acts is really bizarre. They seem to be pretending that a man dressing up as a woman to entertain, is some brand new left wing conspiracy/attempt to turn everyone trans. Bonkers.
Imagine defending sexualised public behaviour around children, this is where you're at man, that's the hill you've chosen to die on. You can be completely accepting of all types of people and just say, yeah we shouldn't allow sexualised behaviour in public around kids. It isn't homophobic.
Actually fair comment and goes back to my point of we are all equal.
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Imagine attacking public homosexual behaviour and leaving out the point that hetero couples do it all the time and then claiming to not be a homophobe.
hand on a ladies bum? Entirely acceptable. Man on another mans bum? HOW DARE THEY!
But he didn't say that. He actually said the direct opposite.
Is it an obsession with Drag or is it not wanting drag queens going into primary schools to teach young children about issues that are completely irrelevant to them at that age. I haven't seen many people who take issue with drag in general, they just don't want their children being involved in it and I have complete sympathy for that point of view.
Much in the same way that I don't think we need to teach primary school kids about trans people, racism or sexism. We should be teaching children general concepts like treatiing everyone equally. We don't teach primary school children plenty of stuff because they are too young. I think a lot of this stuff should come under that umbrella.
What's the context of "hand on a ladies bum" being acceptable? What is she wearing, where is this? What time of day? Are children around? I don't think most straight couples do this though I'm sure it maybe happens, but there definitely isn't a parade where half naked people dressed in bondage gear are doing it.
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Will Musk allow trans on twitter when he buys it and will you still be crying like a little girl about it?
Its amazing. This was a thread to laugh at the backwardness and intolerance of the Saudis for their view on gays and rainbows and as if by magic you lot are exactly the same. ROLFL.
Its amazing. This was a thread to laugh at the backwardness and intolerance of the Saudis for their view on gays and rainbows and as if by magic you lot are exactly the same. ROLFL.
Sorry can you translate that into English for us
Nope. It is an obsession with drag.
The "sexualisation" aspect is a red herring to pass off homophones and transphobic laws
Republicans want to ban under 18s from going to drag acts/shows, which is rather stupid.
Children are subjected to an absurd amount of heterosexual sexualised content and imagery, but as soon as it involves a man dressed as a woman, it is suddenly a massive deal beyond anything else.
This comment sums it up quite well
Florida and Texas Republicans want to ban kids from drag shows
Texas and Florida have become foils of each other, ramping up similar anti-LGBTQ legislation.
www.axios.com
- "If you have concerns about sexualized content being available to those under the age of 18, then why are we not talking about Hooters or cheerleading or beauty pageants or billboards in our communities or magazines at the store or internet ads?" Eskamani asked. "It's just a continuation of homophobic rhetoric disguised as safety concerns."
Nope. It is an obsession with drag.
The "sexualisation" aspect is a red herring to pass off homophones and transphobic laws
Republicans want to ban under 18s from going to drag acts/shows, which is rather stupid.
Children are subjected to an absurd amount of heterosexual sexualised content and imagery, but as soon as it involves a man dressed as a woman, it is suddenly a massive deal beyond anything else.
This comment sums it up quite well
Florida and Texas Republicans want to ban kids from drag shows
Texas and Florida have become foils of each other, ramping up similar anti-LGBTQ legislation.
- "If you have concerns about sexualized content being available to those under the age of 18, then why are we not talking about Hooters or cheerleading or beauty pageants or billboards in our communities or magazines at the store or internet ads?" Eskamani asked. "It's just a continuation of homophobic rhetoric disguised as safety concerns."
There age restrictions on a lot of sexualised content already, look at films and video games