How much has your council tax gone up this year?

moon man · 24 Feb 2024 at 16:26

arknor said:
is that close to a cliff edge? and probably gone in 10-20 years?

is it Cornwall that hates outsiders?
I have a son in the RAF who was in cornwall or devon for awhile and he was telling me they don't like people in the forces either.

The Cornish have been great that I know down here, not like Wales where my daughter went to uni (Bangor)some right toss pots there.
it's not a bad place ( relatively ) for coastal erosion but it will go I suppose.as said Newquay is having some big cliff collapses

Nathan · 24 Feb 2024 at 18:55

4.99 Shropshire

413x · 24 Feb 2024 at 19:04

arknor said:
How many of these near bankupt councils invested money into hotels and malls?

Newcastle own 40% of a city mall that loses money year after year....

Then theres

that article was from 2020, wonder how many loans they had during covid.... why does a hotel need 30mil + in loans from the council and that was before covid... too big to fail like the banks?

Newcastle City Council sits on multi-million investment properties

Newcastle’s was the tenth largest investment property holding of any council, by income, in England in 2021-22

northeastbylines.co.uk

tough decisions now needed to avoid bankruptcy

Newcastle City Council faces ‘tough’ decisions to avoid bankruptcy

Plans are agreed to cut Newcastle City Council spending by another £15m over the next year.

www.bbc.co.uk

cut spending by 15mil , probably give it to a hotel as a loan instead

I wonder WHY????? WHY?????? is it because they keep investing all our money in failing hotels and other stupid crap? rather than spend it on actual services to improve peoples lives?

Lol. That is ridiculous. But when it's not your money.. Its easy to waste away

FoxEye · 24 Feb 2024 at 19:21

413x said:
Lol. That is ridiculous. But when it's not your money.. Its easy to waste away

Part of the problem is the ridiculous insistence of dividing money up into "pots". So whilst they might have no money to pay core staff, because that "pot" is empty, their "investment pot" might still have millions in it, and they need to find something to spend it all on.

Those decisions, and that way of structuring money, is way above the pay grade of most of the people doing an honest day's work, trying to keep the lights on, and keep services running.

413x · 24 Feb 2024 at 19:24

FoxEye said:
Part of the problem is the ridiculous insistence of dividing money up into "pots". So whilst they might have no money to pay core staff, because that "pot" is empty, their "investment pot" might still have millions in it, and they need to find something to spend it all on.

Those decisions, and that way of structuring money, is way above the pay grade of most of the people doing an honest day's work, trying to keep the lights on, and keep services running.

Didn't know that. Yeah that is ridiculous. Like you say, I highly doubt most of them have the aptitude for that stuff. I mean, some of the "investments" are dire.

Just put it on an Etf S&P tracker not ridiculous hotels etc.

jaffveyda · 24 Feb 2024 at 19:29

It's ridiculous how everything is going up, not only council but also parking permits.

Tefal · 24 Feb 2024 at 20:17

jaffveyda said:
It's ridiculous how everything is going up, not only council but also parking permits.

Well to be fair to them they've all voted to increase they're pay, how can they not raise taxes?

Tefal · 24 Feb 2024 at 20:18

moon man said:
The Cornish have been great that I know down here, not like Wales where my daughter went to uni (Bangor)some right toss pots there.
it's not a bad place ( relatively ) for coastal erosion but it will go I suppose.as said Newquay is having some big cliff collapses

People in Bangor are arses to other Welsh people as well. There's a weird sense of undeserved betterness there

Wizzkidy · 24 Feb 2024 at 20:24

I looked in the council site today and saw they are also going to charge for garden waste collection from April onwards, so that's no glass collection and you will now have to pay for garden waste collection.

Absolute joke.

FoxEye · 24 Feb 2024 at 20:55

Wizzkidy said:
I looked in the council site today and saw they are also going to charge for garden waste collection from April onwards, so that's no glass collection and you will now have to pay for garden waste collection.

Absolute joke.

We've always had to pay for garden waste. It's going up to ~£65 a year this year.

arknor · 24 Feb 2024 at 21:37

Wizzkidy said:
I looked in the council site today and saw they are also going to charge for garden waste collection from April onwards, so that's no glass collection and you will now have to pay for garden waste collection.

Absolute joke.

back in the day arranged bulky rubbish used to be free, so people wouldn't fly tip

Now I think its like 8 bin bags at a time or one item of furniture... and it's not free

so many council services basically disappeared or are underfunded to the point where they no longer make any difference.

councillor wages and council tax keeps going up though

stigggeh · 24 Feb 2024 at 22:14

Ours are also looking to charge £40 a year for green waste collections. Notwithstanding Police and Fire, waste collection is the only tangible thing I get. Yes I know a lot goes to Social Services etc but I don't seem to get much from this deal.

Tefal · 24 Feb 2024 at 22:22

Wizzkidy said:
I looked in the council site today and saw they are also going to charge for garden waste collection from April onwards, so that's no glass collection and you will now have to pay for garden waste collection.

Absolute joke.

Broken glass works wonders as drainage material at fhe bottom of pots and containers. Therefore garden waste

Tefal · 24 Feb 2024 at 22:23

arknor said:
councillor wages and council tax keeps going up though

Shush you can't say that our councilors are saints how dare you impunge thier honour by saying they're in it for themselves.

arknor · 24 Feb 2024 at 22:37

Tefal said:
Shush you can't say that our councilors are saints how dare you impunge thier honour by saying they're in it for themselves.

Like MPs but smarter because they are mostly invisible,

Brando · 25 Feb 2024 at 07:46

That was my point earlier, it appears no one is held accountable and public money gets "invested" rather than spent on services. When in inevitably goes wrong, nothing seems to happen.

Brando · 25 Feb 2024 at 07:49

Interesting! https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Council-accounts-a-guide-to-your-rights.pdf

jeffk · 25 Feb 2024 at 08:03

Tefal said:
Shush you can't say that our councilors are saints how dare you impunge thier honour by saying they're in it for themselves.

Councillors are paid on average £7000 a year. It’s not a job I’d do for ten times that, given the amount of abuse they get.

Beans on toast Dave · 25 Feb 2024 at 08:23

stigggeh said:
Ours are also looking to charge £40 a year for green waste collections. Notwithstanding Police and Fire, waste collection is the only tangible thing I get. Yes I know a lot goes to Social Services etc but I don't seem to get much from this deal.

thats just going to fuel people buring stuff in the garden
thats if you can get away without paying it

Uther · 25 Feb 2024 at 08:28

stigggeh said:
Ours are also looking to charge £40 a year for green waste collections. Notwithstanding Police and Fire, waste collection is the only tangible thing I get. Yes I know a lot goes to Social Services etc but I don't seem to get much from this deal.

We already pay more than that for a 2 weekly garden waste collection. The police station was sold off for houses a few years ago and now they want to close the fire station...