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how did you come to find yourself on a uk forum, resurrecting a month old thread, just to vent at some guy who thinks watching pedophilia isnt 'normal' ? It's not like he said was even that.....bad?
Human Centipede 2 Rejected by BBFC
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Are you insinuating that A Serbian Film is child porn?
Seriously? I felt like I needed a bath after watching that ****e.
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no lol. I've not seen it, read skylines posts and you'll know what im talking about ?
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You did say "watching paedophilia"
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Sorry, just took that the wrong way when you said "watching paedophilia" then.
Thought you were referring to the film itself.
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Sorry, just took that the wrong way when you said "watching paedophilia" then.
it's fine lol. . I chose paedophillia but i could have chosen anything else that skyline listed in that post. I'm just interested in how CensorCrap found this forum and why he bothered to post that rant in a month old thread.
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Skyline said it, i said that he said it. Christ its even in a post YOU quoted.IIDeathCubeKII said:
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My bad, it was a while ago.
Here is a video in compensation
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Well, simply doing a search on "sickest film ever made" brought me here, and I don't remember any child porn or pedophilia in Serbian Film? It's all camera tricks, you know, it's a movie, no actual kid was sodomized
Thread is one month old? Censorship is always actual. So I bothered to reply, as I have the right to give my opinions and views like all of you.
The only thing infuriating is all the prejudices that dude Skyline have and all the stereotypes he came up with against the most extreme horror films, which is clearly not is boat or field, as he simply repeat what he read on the internet.
Oh, well, I guess I hate people who are telling me what I should do, watch, read, play etc... or what is normal and abnormal.
I think this dude is right on...
I don’t want to watch Human Centipede II. But I want the right to watch it.
By Brendan O'Neill
I can’t understand why there isn’t more outrage over the BBFC’s banning of Human Centipede II (Full Sequence). Like me, you probably weren’t planning to rush out and buy a DVD of this movie, which tells the lovely story of a bloke who stitches 12 people together to create the eponymous beast while pleasuring himself with sandpaper and barbed wire. But you should nonetheless be angry at the BBFC’s blanket ban on the film, its unilateral removal of our right to decide for ourselves whether to watch it or to snub it. Because it sums up brilliantly the tyrannical elitism of censorship and the BBFC’s treatment of the public as potential perverts who are only one sick movie away from going completely mental.
The BBFC justified its ban on the basis that the film, with its scenes of “graphic sexual violence”, poses a “real risk” of causing “harm” to potential viewers. Apparently the film could “deprave or corrupt a significant proportion of those likely to see [it]“. Which immediately raises a question in my mind: why did it not warp the minds and morality of the men and women at the BBFC who, poor souls that they are, had to sit through it? Are they now depraved? Have they been corrupted? Why not? What is so special about them which means that they are capable of watching the two-hour-long fictional creation of a sexual monster without going doolally, whereas the general public – you and I – apparently are not?
This captures the elitism of the BBFC, and of the bossy, self-appointed censoring class in general, which clearly considers itself morally superior, possessed of a stronger stomach and a clearer mind, than the ordinary man in the street. Normally such elitism is well disguised, hidden behind claims that censorship must be enforced to “protect the children” or to “preserve national security”. But here, in the unfettered blacklisting of a film that might deprave and corrupt “even adults”, in the words of the BBFC, we can see the snobbish authoritarianism of Britain’s chief censors in all its unglory. The message of their ban is: We, the incorruptible few, have a duty to protect you, the corruptible mass, from your worst, most depraved instincts.
The elitism of the BBFC is also revealed in the fact that it is more likely to pass sexually violent movies if they are aimed at arthouse audiences (nice people) rather than the average Joe (frightfully unpredictable weirdos). So in 2009 it granted a cinema release to Lars Von Trier’s Antichrist, which also features wacky sexual degradation. (I won’t go into detail, but there are scissors, hammers, private parts and a lot of blood.) One reviewer called it the “sickest” movie ever to receive the BBFC’s nod of approval. But our moral superiors were happy to release that film – alongside various other French and Japanese art movies with explicit sex and violence – because they trusted that only people like them, the decent, upstanding middle classes, are likely to go to the ICA to watch it. As censorship expert Tom Dewe Matthews has argued, the BBFC “has a bias in favour of arthouse audiences”.
The lack of outrage over the banning of Human Centipede II has been put down to its grotesque content. A Guardian writer said that when she read about the content of the film, she could feel her “anti-censorship inclinations shrivel up along with my appetite”. But it is a mistake to give a green light to the BBFC’s actions just because the film it has banned sounds demented. Because the issue is not whether or not you want to watch this film, but whether you should have the right to decide for yourself whether or not to watch it. In banning this movie, the BBFC has overridden my adult moral faculties; it has removed from me my freedom to choose, my ability to make a moral decision in relation to a piece of art (or trash, or gore, or whatever you want to call it). It has turned me into a child whose eyes must be shielded from fictional horrors. I would far rather live in a world in which some shops sold crazy films featuring human centipedes, than a world in which people I have never met and never voted for and about whom I know next to nothing take it upon themselves to act in loco parentis on my behalf.
Thread is one month old? Censorship is always actual. So I bothered to reply, as I have the right to give my opinions and views like all of you.
The only thing infuriating is all the prejudices that dude Skyline have and all the stereotypes he came up with against the most extreme horror films, which is clearly not is boat or field, as he simply repeat what he read on the internet.
Oh, well, I guess I hate people who are telling me what I should do, watch, read, play etc... or what is normal and abnormal.
I think this dude is right on...
I don’t want to watch Human Centipede II. But I want the right to watch it.
By Brendan O'Neill
I can’t understand why there isn’t more outrage over the BBFC’s banning of Human Centipede II (Full Sequence). Like me, you probably weren’t planning to rush out and buy a DVD of this movie, which tells the lovely story of a bloke who stitches 12 people together to create the eponymous beast while pleasuring himself with sandpaper and barbed wire. But you should nonetheless be angry at the BBFC’s blanket ban on the film, its unilateral removal of our right to decide for ourselves whether to watch it or to snub it. Because it sums up brilliantly the tyrannical elitism of censorship and the BBFC’s treatment of the public as potential perverts who are only one sick movie away from going completely mental.
The BBFC justified its ban on the basis that the film, with its scenes of “graphic sexual violence”, poses a “real risk” of causing “harm” to potential viewers. Apparently the film could “deprave or corrupt a significant proportion of those likely to see [it]“. Which immediately raises a question in my mind: why did it not warp the minds and morality of the men and women at the BBFC who, poor souls that they are, had to sit through it? Are they now depraved? Have they been corrupted? Why not? What is so special about them which means that they are capable of watching the two-hour-long fictional creation of a sexual monster without going doolally, whereas the general public – you and I – apparently are not?
This captures the elitism of the BBFC, and of the bossy, self-appointed censoring class in general, which clearly considers itself morally superior, possessed of a stronger stomach and a clearer mind, than the ordinary man in the street. Normally such elitism is well disguised, hidden behind claims that censorship must be enforced to “protect the children” or to “preserve national security”. But here, in the unfettered blacklisting of a film that might deprave and corrupt “even adults”, in the words of the BBFC, we can see the snobbish authoritarianism of Britain’s chief censors in all its unglory. The message of their ban is: We, the incorruptible few, have a duty to protect you, the corruptible mass, from your worst, most depraved instincts.
The elitism of the BBFC is also revealed in the fact that it is more likely to pass sexually violent movies if they are aimed at arthouse audiences (nice people) rather than the average Joe (frightfully unpredictable weirdos). So in 2009 it granted a cinema release to Lars Von Trier’s Antichrist, which also features wacky sexual degradation. (I won’t go into detail, but there are scissors, hammers, private parts and a lot of blood.) One reviewer called it the “sickest” movie ever to receive the BBFC’s nod of approval. But our moral superiors were happy to release that film – alongside various other French and Japanese art movies with explicit sex and violence – because they trusted that only people like them, the decent, upstanding middle classes, are likely to go to the ICA to watch it. As censorship expert Tom Dewe Matthews has argued, the BBFC “has a bias in favour of arthouse audiences”.
The lack of outrage over the banning of Human Centipede II has been put down to its grotesque content. A Guardian writer said that when she read about the content of the film, she could feel her “anti-censorship inclinations shrivel up along with my appetite”. But it is a mistake to give a green light to the BBFC’s actions just because the film it has banned sounds demented. Because the issue is not whether or not you want to watch this film, but whether you should have the right to decide for yourself whether or not to watch it. In banning this movie, the BBFC has overridden my adult moral faculties; it has removed from me my freedom to choose, my ability to make a moral decision in relation to a piece of art (or trash, or gore, or whatever you want to call it). It has turned me into a child whose eyes must be shielded from fictional horrors. I would far rather live in a world in which some shops sold crazy films featuring human centipedes, than a world in which people I have never met and never voted for and about whom I know next to nothing take it upon themselves to act in loco parentis on my behalf.
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"it's just a film".
4 words people seem to forgot when watching films.
Christ, if we're banning films we don't approve of, or because the subject is extreme then that's pretty bad. I'm not saying this film should exist, or that I have a penchant for humancentipads, but if you are offended by it, or don't think you'll enjoy it.. Don't watch it.
4 words people seem to forgot when watching films.
Christ, if we're banning films we don't approve of, or because the subject is extreme then that's pretty bad. I'm not saying this film should exist, or that I have a penchant for humancentipads, but if you are offended by it, or don't think you'll enjoy it.. Don't watch it.
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That explains a lot.
and I don't remember any child porn or pedophilia in Serbian Film? It's all camera tricks, you know, it's a movie, no actual kid was sodomized
And I dont remember anybody saying there was. Here's that 'pig's post again
Sorry but after just reading the wiki of "A Serbian Film" Anyone that "Enjoys" scenes depicting rape (Including baby :vomit
did he say that film contained paedophillia? no. He was talking about people who enjoy any rape scene, in any film.
correct. Until you posted, the last post was 1 month ago. give or take a few days. you seriously bothered to sign up just to attack somebody for an opinion? If you are going to do that then at least learn to read the posts and understand that opinion before doing so.
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Yeah, of course, that explains a lot, christ's sake how old are you, 15?
He sure said, and you sure said the same, without even taking a look at the film but a wikipedia entry.
Yes he did, the word is there and you used it too, ignorant fools.
Why did you signed up? To give your opinions about things in general right? Same here, it's just infuriating to see members of "society" agreeing blindlessly with censorship and letting people decide for them what they can watch, hey at least I will be enjoying Human Centipede 2 in Canada
My governement don't think a movie can "corrupt and cause harm to the minds of even adults."
Anyway, here's a list for those who enjoy being shock, disturb, disgust while watching movies... top 100 most disturbing films ever made, I am glad to say I have watched 95% of them!
Warning: These are the top 100 sickest, cruelest, most violent, gruesome, upsetting and sadistic films ever made! They contain torture, snuff, rape, animal cruelty, baby killing, genital mutilation and much more! You have been warned!
Although none of these films are real like Traces of Death, they are still very realistic and may in fact contain real footage that may be traumatizing, (Seed, Snuff 102, I'm looking at you guys!) Please watch with caution!
Philosophy of a Knife
August Underground's Mordum
Cannibal Holocaust
Men Behind The Sun
Tumbling Doll of Flesh
Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom
Flowers of Flesh and Blood
Shogun's Sadism
Laboratory of the Devil
Faces of Death
Subconscious Cruelty
Torched
Snuff 102
August Underground's Penance
The Last House on Dead End Street
The Tourist
Cannibal (2005)
Captured For Sex 2
ReGOREgitated Sacrifice
August Underground
The Gateway Meat
Irreversible
Ostermontag
Mermaid in a Manhole
Dard Divorce
NIN: Broken
Butcher
Maskhead
La Petite Mort
Imprint
Scrapbook
Nekromantik 2
Seed
Fetus
A l'interieur (Inside)
Srpski Film
Cutting Moments
Snuff Perversions
Red Account: My Bloody Angel
Mu Zan E
Murder Collection Vol. 1
Shock 2000
Cannibal Ferox
Yakuza's Law
Martyrs
Tortura
Grotesque
Necromaniac: Schizophreniac 2
Aftermath
The Green Elephant
Slaughtered Vomit Dolls
Devil's Experiment
Slow Torture Puke Chamber
Orgies-of-Edo
The Hood Has Eyez
Chaos (2005)
Nekromantik
Rigor Mortis
Murder Set Pieces
Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS
Splatter: Naked Blood
Black Sun: The Nanking Massacre
Buio Omega
Meat Grinder
History of Women's Torture
All Night Long: R
I Spit on Your Corpse, I **** on Your Grave
Antichrist
All Night Long 2
Joy of Torture
Giallo A Venezia
Eat The Schoolgirl
Woman's Flesh (Hungry Mouth)
Suicide Dolls
Lost Paradise (1990)
Faces of Death 4
Eccentric Psycho Cinema 2
Eccentric Psycho Cinema 5
Eccentric Psycho Cinema 6
Eccentric Psycho Cinema 1
Bijo Kenshi Futari - Seppuku
Shiro Shozoku - Harakiri
Jogakusei: Harakiri
Onna Harakiri - Sangre
Onna Harakiri: Seisan
Faces of Death 3
Blood of the Beasts
Faces of Death 2
Blood Sisters
The Girl Next Door
Untold Story
K3: Prison of Hell 2009
All Women Are Whores
Jungle Holocaust
Video Geisteskrank
The White Lie
Dumplings
Inner Depravity 2
Audition
Red Room
Honorable Mentions:
The Torturer
Live Feed
Lucker the Necrophagous
Inner Depravity
Mark of the Devil
Nekro
Schramm
The Manson Family
My Sweet Satan
Amicus Mortis
Broken
My Monster
Adoration
Rubber's Lover
Rampo Noir's Imomushi
The Snuff Files
Necrophagia - Through Eyes of the Dead
Human Pork Chop
Sozinho
Dead Human Collection
Cut and Run
Pig
Visitor Q
Dr. Lamb
All Night Long 3
Angel of Death
Maniac
Butterfly Labyrinth 2
06 Tiros, 60 ml
Fairy in a Cage
Header
Man Bites Dog
Yukoku
Necro Fetish
Schindler's List
Lolita Vibrator Torture
I Spit On Your Grave
Stethescope
Inferno of Torture
Butterfly Labyrinth
Eccentric Psycho Cinema 4
Eccentric Psycho Cinema 7
Eccentric Psycho Cinema 3
Emanuelle in America
C.O.H. Brutal Beating
Ice From The Sun
Pig
Guts of a Virgin 2
Interrogatio 2
Rape! 13th Hour
Interrogatio
Hostel 2
Hostel
w Delta z
Funny Games
An American Crime
School Girl in Cement
Centipede Horror
Da She
Green Inferno
The Poughkeepsie Tapes
Thesis
Lucky Sky Diamond
Serial Killer
Carne
Benny's Video
Snuff-Movie
Captured for Sex
Woman in a Box: Virgin Sacrifice
Beauty in Rope Hell
Beautiful Teacher in Torture Hell
Cruelty: Black Rose Torture
Nutbag
Guts of a Virgin
Woman in a Box 2
I am sure some people will enjoy this list
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Originally Posted by Skyline
Sorry but after just reading the wiki of "A Serbian Film" Anyone that "Enjoys" scenes depicting rape (Including baby :vomit torture, murder, nercophilia, paedophillia seriously wants their heads looking at..
Sorry but after just reading the wiki of "A Serbian Film" Anyone that "Enjoys" scenes depicting rape (Including baby :vomit torture, murder, nercophilia, paedophillia seriously wants their heads looking at..
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Men behind the sun is unacceptable to me, the scene when a live cat is put into a room with hundreds of rats and gets bitten to death is completely and utterly sickening. At least in Cannibal Holocaust the animals were killed for food, they merely filmed the deaths. No person or animal should be made to suffer for entertainment/art. The rest of Men behind the sun is ok. Also Faces of Death shouldn't really be in with films, it's more a compilation of real executions/killings with some fake ones added.
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excellent insult, I can only aspire to think of such witty retorts.
no he didnt and no i didnt. learn to read. let me explain it for you: He hadnt seen the film, he read wiki. He read that there are depictions of rape, he went on to say that anybody who enjoys watching sceens of rape (and went on to list various types of rape) 'needs their heads examining'.
You tell me, now, where he said, or I said, A serbian Film contains paedophilia. You cant because it was was never said, and quoting a post i've already quoted does not change it's contents. Maybe you misinterpreted his post because American-english is different and you have trouble understanding British-english post, but somehow i dont think it's language that's at fault here.
ooh another insult, goodo! might want to think about who the ignorant fool is though.
Why did you signed up? To give your opinions about things in general right? Same here, it's just infuriating to see members of "society" agreeing blindlessly with censorship and letting people decide for them what they can watch, hey at least I will be enjoying Human Centipede 2 in Canada
I signed up to learn, if i'm honest. Believe it or not these forums are owned by a computer hardware retailer and that's how i first found them - buying hardware from the shop. but that's not important, what's important is i didnt sign up just to give some guy abuse over something he didnt say over a month ago. Surely you must have something better to do than that.
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I would think (hope?) that's where most people would draw the line. Even if i dont have any intention to watch such films mentioned in this thread, i have no real issue with their existence in principal. However as you have said, I dont believe any living creature should be made to suffer in the name of 'art'
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Human Centipede is on SyFy right now, OH is watching it - yeah, it's pretty gross.
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I'm surprised they've put it on syfy! i wonder if any scenes have been cut out?
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Dunno - first time have ever seen it, won't be watching again!
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Again, you're acting like the whole world have the same opinions, culture, in China, they eat dogs, cats and the life of an animal as no values whatsoever. In the UK, when an animal is cute, if you harm it, you're worse than a child molester, if it's a bunch of rats set on fire (like a scene in Men Behind The Sun) no one cares. The value of life is measure by the cuteness of a creature. Sure I hate animal cruelty and I think T.F Mous went maybe too far with the cat scene, but for him and for is country, that scene was nothing.