Human v Chimp fight

TheOracle said:
The human would have to be very luckily, if it could somehow catch the chimp and pin it down by the neck.....maybe. Doubtfull. The chimp would jump up and start biting hands and face.
The minute a hand comes off, or a huge chunk of flesh it's game over. Not something I'd want to see.
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Unlikely I'd say, Chimps don't have that much more of a stronger bite than a human, only slightly stronger - whilst it could chew off a finger, I think it's highly unlikely it could take someone's hand off. It certainly wouldn't be able to jump up and do all of that, against any adversary that weighs 40-50% more than it does, if pinned down - remember, Chimps tire very quickly, much quicker than humans, due to muscle composition.

I think for the Chimp to win conclusively, it would have to blind it's opponent very quickly, if it couldn't do that and quickly, it could be beaten by the right person.
 
It would be interesting and depend on the human I guess.

I'm thinking a chimp would grapple instead of punch.

I guess the guy would have to use the chimps momentum against it. But I'd be trying to knock it out if I had to fight a chimp.

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diamount said:
That is some delusion - humans stand no chance, come up with as many hypotheticals as you like - the result will be the same. There is a reason why early man was such easy prey before our brains were big enough to invent tools and weapons.
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I think our unrivalled stamina v absolutely anything might have had something to do with our becoming an apex predator, doesn’t take much to run something and bash its nackered head in with a rock.

Persistence hunting if you want it’s proper name.

Edit: My take on the OP, an unarmed average man would probably lose, give the man a rock or a pointy stick it would go in the mans favor I reckon.
 
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Merlin5 said:
I was googling Bruce Lee v MMA fighters the other day to see what the general consensus is about how well he would have fared, most people saying he wouldn't do very well.

Anyway, as Google does, it links you to other things with some connection to your original question. This was the question sent to me, it's from Quora. Also, who would have thought a croc can outrun you.

Could an MMA fighter defeat a chimpanzee in hand to hand combat?

Here is one of the main answers, it's quite fascinating and I just wondered what people here think. There are of course contrary responses from people that think it's a bit exaggerated and based on early research that apparently doesn't hold as much water today.

"No. Not a chance. Not one man. Not two. Maybe four large men but they'd get the hell bitten and scratched out of them and their only chance would be to sacrifice limb, and probably life of one or two, and use their weight and size, if possible, to immobilize the chimp. Even then I'm not sure they could.

They would be severely injured at the very least, and that's assuming four, not one or two. I've spent a fair amount of time observing chimps up close in the wild and my first wife worked with them for years at a major zoo. They will tear you apart.

You have no idea of the speed and ferocity with which they attack. Humans are no match for most wild animals. A crocodile can outrun you on land -- yes, a crocodile. A small wild pig can kill you before you know what is happening, and a full grown male chimp, even a female, will tear you apart.

It will rip your arms off, tear the skin off your face, scratch your eyes out, tear your windpipe from your neck.... It won't feel your big punches, trust me. The speed and ferocity will terrify you and render you helpless.

You will instantly go into a defensive freeze as you try to fend off this unimaginable strength and unrelenting attack. You will **** your pants as you die. Can I make it any clearer than that? Forget your martial arts. Forget your tough guy act. A chimp will expose you as the puny human fraud that you are no matter how well trained you think you might be."
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Wasn't there a case in the US where a chimp tore the face of an occupant in or around a house and a surviving member of the family locked herself in a vehicle waiting for the police?
 
ethan said:
Wasn't there a case in the US where a chimp tore the face of an occupant in or around a house and a surviving member of the family locked herself in a vehicle waiting for the police?
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Post #5 makes a reference to the case I think you're thinking of: Charla Nash.

She was a friend of the owner and ended up having her face ripped off and has undergone extensive plastic surgery since.
 
cheesyboy said:
I feel like the gorilla has the advantage, pound for pound. But big grizzlies are far bigger than big gorillas.
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Nothing on earth other than humans with guns would threaten a fully grown Grizzly bear.

It would use the bones from the biggest silverback gorilla you could fine, as a tooth pick.

Some of the larger grizzly bears weigh over 600KG vs the larger silverbacks which weight closer to 200KG, it's a silly comparison.
 
Screeeech said:
Nothing on earth other than humans with guns would threaten a fully grown Grizzly bear.

It would use the bones from the biggest silverback gorilla you could fine, as a tooth pick.

Some of the larger grizzly bears weigh over 600KG vs the larger silverbacks which weight closer to 200KG, it's a silly comparison.
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Yeah, that's what I was meaning: a matching weight specimen from each I reckon the Gorilla gets it. But no chance against a full sized bear.
 
cheesyboy said:
Yeah, that's what I was meaning: a matching weight specimen from each I reckon the Gorilla gets it. But no chance against a full sized bear.
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Yeah rofl, it's a mental comparison, as you'd have to find the worlds biggest gorilla, and match it with a small Grizzly, so you'd have to rig it in favour of the Gorilla for it to stand a chance.
 
Screeeech said:
Nothing on earth other than humans with guns would threaten a fully grown Grizzly bear.

It would use the bones from the biggest silverback gorilla you could fine, as a tooth pick.

Some of the larger grizzly bears weigh over 600KG vs the larger silverbacks which weight closer to 200KG, it's a silly comparison.
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I think a Siberian Tiger can possibly beat a Grizzly Bear
 
D.P. said:
Chimpanzees are far stronger than an average human, but they aren't trained in aggressive fighting. It would probably do well against an MMA fighter though.
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What a hilarious thing to say. Chimpanzees are trained in the ultimate style of fighting; survival. I don't think they're going to care about the technique of a spinkick as they'll be too busy ripping your face off, whilst simultaneously chewing on your arm, standing on your neck, and making a noise so scary you'll probably **** yourself before you pass out.

I think the main problem would be that no matter what an MMA fighter does he'll have to physically incapacitate the chimp to not-die. Animals like that must have a huge pain threshold, so unless you've done enough to knock them, break a bone* etc. out they're just going to keep coming and coming. They don't have the intelligence to think "oh dear my arm feels broken I best give up now"

*I wonder if a human could break a chimp's bone? :confused:
 
ethan said:
Wasn't there a case in the US where a chimp tore the face of an occupant in or around a house and a surviving member of the family locked herself in a vehicle waiting for the police?
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Yes, it's owner put Xanax in it's tea the morning of the attack.
 
Roar87 said:
I think a Siberian Tiger can possibly beat a Grizzly Bear
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Yeah I mean the Siberian is the top predator on land, it would have the advantage, one of the biggest bites of all animals, I’d probably agree - but lol, it’s an impossible situation :D
 
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