Is there a definitive answer on whether the wing is legal within the lettering of the regulations? There seems to be some debate on whether it is outright against the regulations (but capable of passing the flexing test), or whether it is only against the spirit of the regs.
Hungarian Grand Prix 2010, Hungaroring Circuit - Race 12/19
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mclaren should definately stick KERS back in their cars and just shout 'suprise' as they boost past everyone off the start.
cant see anything other than a RB 1-2 if all goes to plan but that doesnt happen to often for them, webber will make a better start and vettel will try to ram him off the track, one will get a puncture meanwhile alonsos car explodes and hamilton makes a great start and is leading into the first corner
but i predict
1st webber/vettel (the other to crash/explode/whatever)
2nd alonso
3rd hamilton/massa
button to get up to 6/7.
cant see anything other than a RB 1-2 if all goes to plan but that doesnt happen to often for them, webber will make a better start and vettel will try to ram him off the track, one will get a puncture meanwhile alonsos car explodes and hamilton makes a great start and is leading into the first corner
but i predict
1st webber/vettel (the other to crash/explode/whatever)
2nd alonso
3rd hamilton/massa
button to get up to 6/7.
Again why did they ban the michelin tyre for pretty much the same standard. Past the tests, changed shape during the race, so was deemed against the spirit of the ruling and the goal posts moved.
It's a dangerous amount of flex to allow the team to get away with purely because we know what happened to get to the flex test in the first place.
Wings failed.
I understand why they are saying it's legal, it's passing the test but we all know what they have done is against the spirit of the rules. As was the ferrari flexi floor.
My thinking it just like the DD diffuser of the Brawn, it's being allowed to stand because it's a new team winning.
If Ferrari or Mclaren had pedalled out these devices and been 1 second up, they would have been banned faster than you can say third pedal.
I cannot understand why Whitmarsh is so slow to protest it formally instead of bleating like a girl to the bbc.
mclaren should definately stick KERS back in their cars and just shout 'suprise' as they boost past everyone off the start.
cant see anything other than a RB 1-2 if all goes to plan but that doesnt happen to often for them, webber will make a better start and vettel will try to ram him off the track, one will get a puncture meanwhile alonsos car explodes and hamilton makes a great start and is leading into the first corner
but i predict
1st webber/vettel (the other to crash/explode/whatever)
2nd alonso
3rd hamilton/massa
button to get up to 6/7.
1st Webber
2nd Hamilton
3rd Massa
alonso will take vettel out.
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I thought it was Mercedes who did all the work on the Kers system for Mclaren?
Isn't the McLaren even WORSE in wet weather?
well m5 was jammed, so just sitting down to watch qauli now, although know what the grid is
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Bernie should stop allowing practices to be shown on TV, Watching P1 and P2 put me right off staying in to watch qually today so i went out and sat in the garden instead, Red Bull being so far ahead makes for one boring show :/
Interesting. I know Whitmarsh and Brawn have asked for clarification (read: informally protested) about the RBR wing in particular and the Ferrari wing in addition. Not sure why the McLaren car would be getting inspected unless they're looking for a baseline to judge from.
Ross Brawn does make a very valid point.
The last thing any team wants is a set of moving goalposts. This rule needs clarifying - none of this 'oh well, we can't stop the wings flexing a bit so we'll allow that'.
***edit***
Kobayashi penalised. Like I didn't see that one coming....
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It will be as a comparison - if they're going to be putting the parts under a different test to normal to see if they flex non-linearly they'll need to see how the RBR/Ferrari wings differ to the visably rigid wings.
Exactly what I thought, but how come McLaren is the baseline?
Just read that exact same piece and totally agreed, hopefully they will get it all sorted asap as its clearly breaking the rules but nobody is appealing it for some strange reason. Obviously the tests arent good enough.
Will be interesting if they declare the RBR + Ferrari wings illegal as what would they do about tomorrows race?
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Doubt it, as it hadn't been 'clarified' up to this point, and no one has officially protested the parts despite visible movement from the offset of the season.
Worst case would be the RBR starting from the back of the grid/pitlane tommorrow (unless they haven't get a non-flexing wing) - but more likely they'll hold the clarification off until after the race, and announce new tests to be in effect from Spa onwards.
If the rumours about flexible splitters and floors are true though, I wonder how/whether these would be tested?