He took a 'new' engine, as in his third of three permitted engines.
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He took a 'new' engine, as in his third of three permitted engines.
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That seems incredibly sad
Soldato
So Charles's Ferrari engine is also irreparable after the first lap incident with Stroll. That was his second engine...
Well at least Ferrari aren't going on about it like Red Bull are.
I wonder if Horner is tactically complaining about the cost of damaged cars because they are one of the big teams quietly against the cost cap because they like to be able to outspend the smaller teams? All the teams are in the same position, and the smaller teams are in an even worse spot if they trash a car. Big numbers may get bandied about, but I think a lot of that is development cost compared to manufacturing.
In the end, the likes of Hamilton learned years ago, that if you don't want to get involved with incidents, then you need to proactively avoid being where the incidents are, and be a bit lucky, and a bit willing to give up a place now in order to win the race a little further down the line.
I noticed that Verstappen again hit another car while overtaking this weekend, only this time without crashing out.
In the end, the likes of Hamilton learned years ago, that if you don't want to get involved with incidents, then you need to proactively avoid being where the incidents are, and be a bit lucky, and a bit willing to give up a place now in order to win the race a little further down the line.
I noticed that Verstappen again hit another car while overtaking this weekend, only this time without crashing out.
Soldato
....Apart from Binotto coming out saying those clearly responsible for such accidents should have to pay for the costs.
Man of Honour
That seems incredibly sad
It does seem a bit unfair that drivers end up with penalties through no fault of their own
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Russell is testing with Merc
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Soldato
Shh. Don't you ever speak negatively about sir max
Caporegime
This is a very good point. It's also been the case that the smaller teams are seriously hurt by the costs of collisions and crashes. It's only now that big teams are feeling the same pain that they're complaining about it.
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They’ll do it at a track where they can easily drs everyone else. We’ve seen them do this before prior to races they think they can easily win with a fresh engine, it’s why they’ve often looked so strong at the season end vs a limping Mercedes in years gone by.
I can't actually find a video to embed, but there's a clip of the cars rolling into the pits at the restart in this article: Monday Morning Debrief
I've seen a few suggest Hamilton would have likely been at, or near the back anyway! but it's clear from the clip Alonso holding up the pack would have allowed Hamilton to easily slot into 6th at worst.
I've seen a few suggest Hamilton would have likely been at, or near the back anyway! but it's clear from the clip Alonso holding up the pack would have allowed Hamilton to easily slot into 6th at worst.
Soldato
Good spot! I'm glad he didn't though, was fun watching him work his way back to near the front!
Mercedes weren't to know that. There would have been too much risk of damage or worse in bringing him in, I think they made the right call with the information they had at the time.
Caporegime
I think they clearly got it wrong, Lewis was saying before the first start that slicks were on, and the cost of a pitstop in race conditions was always going to be more than the lost places (if any were lost, didn't everyone have to leave in the order they entered). One question though: why did none of the teams for slicks before leaving for the grid? Were there orders from race control or something?
None of the teams were to know how dry the track was. It's easy to look back in hindsight and say Mercedes made a mistake, but they still made the right call with the information they had.
- They weren't to know the track was ready for slicks.
- Due to their pit location there was risk of being well down the grid or at worse a collision
- Coming in after one lap (after the restart) ensures no damage to the car and clean air
Associate
No one knew how dry the track was until the drivers went around it and got that information. Merc still believed there was going to be rain, which was another factor in keeping LH on inters although Lewis told them it was dry.
Caporegime
I think they could have guessed, and I'm surprised no-one took that risk. That 13 drivers got it right by diving into the pits and LH got it wrong points to a significant error on his part. And, sure, the other teams saw what everyone else was doing, but I don't think many (any?) of them were making that decision late enough to use that information. The pit crews had to be alerted and made ready and Merc would also have seen that (although, being the lap on the way to the grid they couldn't tell the driver to come in).
True, but that's still them getting it wrong, it's just a different kind of wrong.
Associate
Yeap feel its definitely a blunder whichever way you look at it and not the first one this season from Merc. But being the lead car they probably erred on the side of caution knowing that the lead competitor was way down the grid. I guess they were banking on atleast a few cars staying out and giving LH that buffer from the ones pitting.