Image quality Plus speed is reason enough to go 8800.

easyrider · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:07

Tute said:
Yes according to you.

It's nice how you know what everyone else here wants.

I can't belive i'm being called a fanboy by the king of the G80 club.

Pot, kettle, and black springs to mind.

If R600 is a faster on release I'll dump this 8800 GTX in a flash.

The thing is you have run out of things to say.

So insults are all you can muster.

LoadsaMoney · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:08

Yep, you buy 2x x1900's to save money, which in fact won't save you any money, as as said both slots are filled and you have nowhere to go, so you would have to get rid of both cards, it makes much more sense to buy a single 8800 GTX, as it is better than 2x x1900's in Crossfire, plus you still have somewhere to go as you still have another slot free to add a second if you desire.

Tute · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:10

WTF?

This is stupid.

I've just proved why a Crossfire setup is better.

I've done it in a calm way, and without being insulting.

Yet you dismiss it without giving anything close to a decent reason.

I give up.

The Asgard · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:12

Tute said:
OcUK MSI GeForce 7900 GTO SILENT 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail

Pop two of these in an SLi board, and clock them to GTX. As shown in the Anandtech benchmarks, this gives you pretty much identical performance as the 8800GTX. But it saves the buyer £160.

Not a chance. I had SLI GTO's previous to my 8800GTX and while the score was only a 1000 marks away in 3D mark 06 actual gaming is in a completely different league.

For example NWN2 was jerky and I had to turn the detail down. With the 8800GTX everything on and silky smooth. With Oblivion it feeel about 400% faster and thats with AA on.

The 8800 is an untapped monster waiting to get out.

Give it a rest your starting to look a bit silly now.

easyrider · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:12

Tute said:
WTF?

This is stupid.

I've just proved why a Crossfire setup is better.

I've done it in a calm way, and without being insulting.

Yet you dismiss it without giving anything close to a decent reason.

I give up.

Loadsamoney understood my reasons perfectly.

Read his thread above.All valid reasons not to buy x1900 Xfire.

easyrider · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:13

LoadsaMoney said:
Yep, you buy 2x x1900's to save money, which in fact won't save you any money, as as said both slots are filled and you have nowhere to go, so you would have to get rid of both cards, it makes much more sense to buy a single 8800 GTX, as it is better than 2x x1900's in Crossfire, plus you still have somewhere to go as you still have another slot free to add a second if you desire.

Yup.

Nail on the head there.

But puzzled as to why Tute doesn't get it. :confused:

The Asgard · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:14

easyrider said:
Yup.

Nail on the head there.

But puzzled as to why Tute doesn't get it.

Thats probably because he hasn't got a clue. :rolleyes:

easyrider · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:14

The Asgard said:
Not a chance. I had SLI GTO's previous to my 8800GTX and while the score was only a 1000 marks away in 3D mark 06 actual gaming is in a completely different league.

For example NWN2 was jerky and I had to turn the detail down. With the 8800GTX everything on and silky smooth. With Oblivion it feeel about 400% faster and thats with AA on.

The 8800 is an untapped monster waiting to get out.

Give it a rest your starting to look a bit silly now.

Yeah the benchmark scores are no reflection of in world gaming.

Oblivion is just so much faster than my two 7900 GTX's in sli i had before i got the GX2.

It has to be seen to be believed

The Asgard · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:17

easyrider said:
Yeah the benchmark scores are no reflection of in world gaming.

Oblivion is just so much faster than my two 7900 GTX's in sli i had before i got the GX2.

It has to be seen to be believed

Must say I nearly fell of my chair with Oblivion. Everything on Full with HDR and 4X AA and in the woody area with grass and trees swaying and it was silky smooth. Gobsmacked

ernysmuntz · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:21

Tute said:
It doesn't. But i'm entitled to my opinion, just like the G80 crew are entitled to their view that i'm talking nonsense.

I believe the card is a waste, and i'd deter anybody with an X1800 or higher from upgrading to one, and even then i'd only recommend the GTS - after all it does give performance better than the 7950GX2 for the same price.

If you don't like it, add me to ignore, i'm certainly not fussed.

[Edit] Then again... maybe i'm just having a crappy week. Almost had a go at Gilly in the sports section a few days ago. Meh.

Why are you posting then?

Your entitled to your opinion and you've expressed it, how many times does one need to express their opinion on the same subject. Unless your making a concerted ongoing effort to prevent something....like say Greenpeace?

If you don't mind being labled as a fashist (spelling), then please carry on, but your not really telling anyone anything new.

Everyone loves money, nobody likes spending it, I'm sure we're all grown up enough to make the buying decision thats right for us.

If someone comes in here asking if its a good idea to upgrade for DX10 alone, then by all mines fire away at them with your rhetoric

but otherwise, is there really any need?

Durzel · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:26

easyrider said:
The point of this thread is that the 8800 is not just an upgrade.Its a new way of at looking at GFX cards.

Christ you're starting to sound like Gibbo evangelising about this like it's the Second Coming or something.

ATI have been doing HDR+AA in Oblivion and everything else for months, maybe if you're used to having substandard graphics from one of the older Nvidia cards I could understand how its such a huge revelation.

I agree that for people with SLI & Crossfire it's a relatively painless upgrade path cost wise, but don't pretend it's something it's not - until DX10 comes out it's an iterative upgrade, and a very expensive one at that.

Arcane · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:29

Anyone had any luck overclocking? I get blue screens when I try to find the optimal settings in ntune.

easyrider · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:39

Durzel said:
Christ you're starting to sound like Gibbo evangelising about this like it's the Second Coming or something.

ATI have been doing HDR+AA in Oblivion and everything else for months, maybe if you're used to having substandard graphics from one of the older Nvidia cards I could understand how its such a huge revelation.

I agree that for people with SLI & Crossfire it's a relatively painless upgrade path cost wise, but don't pretend it's something it's not - until DX10 comes out it's an iterative upgrade, and a very expensive one at that.

I upgraded from a GX2.

But the difference is till massive.

The mere fact its a single card and poops on xfire is enough to warrant my view

easyrider · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:40

Arcane said:
Anyone had any luck overclocking? I get blue screens when I try to find the optimal settings in ntune.

Not clocking until my 680i comes tomo and I do a whle new rebuild.

Try powerstrip

Nelly · 12 Nov 2006 at 19:41

Personal opinion, sounds like the 8800GTX is absolutly Awesome. . if you buy it for £500 & it drops down to say £300ish within 6 months you have lost £200 + 2nd hand value so say £220 ish or whatever = £280.

I cant really remember or be bothered to delve into it, but say if I bought a card for say £300 what will its value be in say 6 months time?

Graphics cards & especially high end processors i.e X6800 seem to lose value ever so fast, this is the only reason I am put off purchasing this very card, having been a 1st time buyer on the 800XT PE, 1900XTX, I have to admit I cant afford to pay out money like that as I'm not on a great amount of money. Wish I was an Electrician raking in between £500 & 1K a week in then I woudnt have no qualms on treating myself to a top card such as the 8800XTX.

Basically I think thats all it boils down to... if you can afford to treat yourself to a £500 card & it makes your life/self more happy then go for it.

Besty · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:07

There is top perfomance and then there is value for money, its quite rare to see them both meet at the same time.

Bragging rights cost money, i dont think theres anything wrong with blowing someones monthly wages on a G80 SLI setup but i know from experience that geek euphoria is expensive to acquire and doesnt last that long.

The only thing that is stopping me from buying it myself is the inability to hide the reciepts from my missus anymore.....

Hiding the cards has never been the problem!

I think myself and many more like me will probably jump in once the price stops being silly and there is a killer game to compel me to buy into it.

Until then - keep posting Easyrider, its great to read about your experiences!

ernysmuntz · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:17

I think a lot of people don't realise that SLI isn't implemented that well for all games...
This could well be why the 8800GTX only gets 1000 or so more points in 3dmark06...
Yet in oblivion your doubling your frame rate....

This is often overlooked, as far as I'm concerned easyrider is bang on the mark with all he says, even if is put in some colourful fuity language

Bold for emphasis....

BubbySoup · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:26

Durzel said:
Christ you're starting to sound like Gibbo evangelising about this like it's the Second Coming or something.

ATI have been doing HDR+AA in Oblivion and everything else for months, maybe if you're used to having substandard graphics from one of the older Nvidia cards I could understand how its such a huge revelation.

I agree that for people with SLI & Crossfire it's a relatively painless upgrade path cost wise, but don't pretend it's something it's not - until DX10 comes out it's an iterative upgrade, and a very expensive one at that.

Yeah I have to agree, sorry but at the moment it's just an expensive speed bumped DX9 card and the amusing thing is, when DX10 arrives, it won't be the fastest card anymore. I have an X1900 x-fire setup and sure, I could go out and buy one tomorrow, but really, I can't be arsed to pull my loop apart just for some speed bumping.

Once Alan Wake arrives, it will be quad-core and the newest DX10 card out at that time for me

Stepping off my soapbox though, if you have the cash to burn, more power to you. I am just not of the mind of spending it for the sake of it. I need a good reason and a speed bump at this point in time is not enough of one imo.

dazsly · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:28

well I got 70+ fps at 1280 x 1024 @ max settings plus max aa, af in graw with the 8800gts and conroe 6600 all @ stock. im happy with that

rippling · 12 Nov 2006 at 20:30

BubbySoup said:
Yeah I have to agree, sorry but at the moment it's just an expensive speed bumped DX9 card and the amusing thing is, when DX10 arrives, it won't be the fastest card anymore. I have an X1900 x-fire setup and sure, I could go out and buy one tomorrow, but really, I can't be arsed to pull my loop apart just for some speed bumping.

Once Alan Wake arrives, it will be quad-core and the newest DX10 card out at that time for me

Stepping off my soapbox though, if you have the cash to burn, more power to you. I am just not of the mind of spending it for the sake of it. I need a good reason and a speed bump at this point in time is not enough of one imo.

i have to take my hat off to nvidia looks like they have another 6 series card on there hands! fantastic , and image quality is outstanding , world class , so it isnt just a speed bump , although i will wait till after xmas to get one lol