Perhaps you can answer this question:
Why does Webber have a disproportionately greater number of car failures, compared with Vettel?
Has your team come up with an explanation?
Indian Grand Prix 2013, New Delhi - Race 16/19
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Perhaps you can answer this question:
Why does Webber have a disproportionately greater number of car failures, compared with Vettel?
Has your team come up with an explanation?
On average he qualifies lower than Seb, runs in dirty air and has to push harder to get where he should have been in the first place. That answers it I think.
Actually, no they dont. they are both given the parts that our wind tunnel guys say will be quickest [in conjunction with our strategy guys].
The drivers do not pick what wing they will run, they are given a car to race and thats it.
Unfortunately, in 2013, if it rained that hard, no cars would be allowed to race, so we will never get to see a Senna-esque performance again.
If memory serves me correct, in 1993, safety cars didnt exist in F1 (I never saw any SC during those years), so drivers had to man-up and race. Rain is a great equaliser and rather than pure car performance, it becomes about driver skill.
At the time Alesi, MSc and Senna were the best wet weather drivers. MSc was in his 2nd full season of F1, so he was a relative rookie.
Not sure about Barrichello...I don't actually remember him in that race.
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Maldonado won in the Williams that was arguably more of a dog than the Toro Rosso and with less extreme weather conditions to help him. Just saying
.I applaud Vettel for what he's done with the Red Bull, he'd be stupid to trade it in for anything less but i'm leaning more on the side that the car/team has been the real driving force behind him. For arguments sake, MW never really showed himself to be a real contender until Red Bull got upto full steam, as much as i like the bloke i cant help but feel the car has flattered him.
Theres nothing I'd like to see more than him winning a championship in a different car just to shut us all up
All said and done the history books will be very kind Vettel!
So Sparky, whens the next hooning through the streets of MK?
Okay, but then other cars on the grid dont seem to break down so easily, as Webber's car does. Is your car more fragile?
You know as well as I do, to be fast you run the risk of breaking down by being on the limit. It's what we do. Reliable does not win championships, well usually.
Maldonado won in the Williams that was arguably more of a dog than the Toro Rosso and with less extreme weather conditions to help him. Just saying
I applaud Vettel for what he's done with the Red Bull, he'd be stupid to trade it in for anything less but i'm leaning more on the side that the car/team has been the real driving force behind him. For arguments sake, MW never really showed himself to be a real contender until Red Bull got upto full steam, as much as i like the bloke i cant help but feel the car has flattered him.
Theres nothing I'd like to see more than him winning a championship in a different car just to shut us all up
All said and done the history books will be very kind Vettel!
So Sparky, whens the next hooning through the streets of MK?
Think the next one is scheduled for London mate. I could be wrong though.
Maldonado won in the Williams that was arguably more of a dog than the Toro Rosso and with less extreme weather conditions to help him. Just saying
I applaud Vettel for what he's done with the Red Bull, he'd be stupid to trade it in for anything less but i'm leaning more on the side that the car/team has been the real driving force behind him. For arguments sake, MW never really showed himself to be a real contender until Red Bull got upto full steam, as much as i like the bloke i cant help but feel the car has flattered him.
Theres nothing I'd like to see more than him winning a championship in a different car just to shut us all up
All said and done the history books will be very kind Vettel!
So Sparky, whens the next hooning through the streets of MK?
You are a local lad, why dont you pop in for a coffee?
The changes are to wing angles etc on their car. the bits are the fastest [ well we think fastest] we have. the drivers at the end of the day are a employee, we are in it for the constructors title not the drivers title.
Bits are flown from the factory up until the last minute, its what we call hand baggage. a driver can not request a wing we do not have.
Bits are flown from the factory up until the last minute, its what we call hand baggage. a driver can not request a wing we do not have.
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My mate was at your factory the other day, utterly jealous. He showed me a picture of the trophy cabinet.. my god that's impressive
What a boring GP.
Seems more like Newey doesn't like big people ruining his design?
Sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about. Webber's heavier than Vettel which (i've heard) equates to roughly a 1/10th per lap (per mean lap time). Which is pretty much the average time per qualy lap he's beind vettel.
http://formula1.about.com/od/drivers/a/Driver_Weights.htm
Seems more like Newey doesn't like big people ruining his design?
Sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about. Webber's heavier than Vettel which (i've heard) equates to roughly a 1/10th per lap (per mean lap time). Which is pretty much the average time per qualy lap he's beind vettel.
http://formula1.about.com/od/drivers/a/Driver_Weights.htm
I would imagine Webber's and Vettel's car both weigh the same, as the cars are underweight anyway and they have to add ballast to bring it up to the minimum weight, so Webber would probably just lose out on a little bit of ballast.
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Yup, I would say that would be true. Plus Ballast can be moved about in the car to aid with the balance.
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I bet Paul Hembrey was holding his breath when Vettel was doing the donuts lol.
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Who ever thinks Vettels success isn't 90% down to the car has some serious blinkers on.
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It was actually introduced in 1993, first used at Interlagos after a downpour caused chaos (how many times has that happened at Interlagos now?
)Of course, that era of the safety car is best known as supposedly one of the contributing factors towards Senna's death (though I completely disagree with that statement).
He was running third between Hill and Prost when his fuel pump (I think) failed just before the finish. He was running second behind Senna at one point.
Every champion's title is 90% down to the car, be it speed, reliability or usually a combination of the two.
If you swapped Vettel with Alonso or Hamilton, you'd have the same outcome - the Red Bull driver would win. There aren't many championships where the title hasn't gone to the driver in the best car.