$400 might as well be £400
£350 will get you a 6700 with reliable performance. There's also good hopes for further gpu price drops all round.
I have no idea how they're going to find the suckers to buy at 400.
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Intel Arc series unveiled with the Alchemist dGPU to arrive in Q1 2022
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£350 will get you a 6700 with reliable performance. There's also good hopes for further gpu price drops all round.
I have no idea how they're going to find the suckers to buy at 400.
Caporegime
Soldato
We had high hopes for the intel range as they were said to be available in bulk and start off at cheaper prices that AMD/nvidia.
They have no chance of big sales if they enter at the same price points, especially with buggy drivers and unknown track record.
They have no chance of big sales if they enter at the same price points, especially with buggy drivers and unknown track record.
Caporegime
Sort of, at $130 it seems good but then you remember the RX 6400 is better, and $160.
So much for Intel saving the day, now we just have more over priced cards.
The A380 goes toe to toe with the RX 6400 in DX12, winning some and losing some. Not so much DX 11 and DX 9. And $30 is $30; that's a non-trivial percentage difference.
Soldato
Precisely this. If I could only frame the posts of those championing the saviours. I recall at the time wincing at the lording for intel, kind of hoping they would even partially deliver as lots of people needed/wanted GPU's back in Jan/Feb.
Oh well let's see if AMD get a break and intel can buck the trend of nonstop jokes about drivers and lacklustre performance. I mean these cards are taking up all them scarce components we are apparently paying extra tax for so the new gen cards are going to cost more right?...
yea it's all intels fault that AMD and NVDA cards are so expense.....
only proper morons thought intels first foray into the GPU market meant they would murder the other manufactures and give their cards away for a loss
Soldato
What monitors do these cards work with?
G-Sync?
FreeSync?
FreeSync (G-Sync Compatible)?
Other?
G-Sync?
FreeSync?
FreeSync (G-Sync Compatible)?
Other?
Soldato
Same applies with Ray Tracing. If you raised the fact it was AMDs first attempt versus nVidias second, that wasn’t allowed to wash. It was AMDs fault for being behind. Same applies here for Intel.But when AMD faced such critique on titles where nvidia done better on DX11 there was no empathy, so it is only right they come under the same scrutiny!
Soldato
I think your agreeing, but in any case I think Intel worked with nVidia while implementing their XeSS (using AI to upscale). Chances are being into the industry for decades on cpu/igpu and working with partners its not like they are brand new starting from scratch with many of these technologies. They hired ex exployees of their competitors to get the advantage and certainly have the budget to compete compared to any new ventures.
I actually do want them to make headway into the market and bring something to the table including competition. Just like nVidia, I give them a hard time as they need to work for their custom base and not be a faceroll recommendation buy as we know how that ends.
Soldato
Intel debunks Arc A780 rumors, such graphics card was never planned - VideoCardz.com
Intel Arc GPU week Ryan Shrout (Intel Graphics Marketing) has confirmed that there is no Arc A780 graphics card, in fact it was never planned. The rumors about potential candidate for the fastest Arc desktop model called A780 are dated back to first quarter of this year. This part was never...
videocardz.com
Ryan Shrout confirmed Arc A780 did not existed, it never been planned.
So Arc A770 is the flagship to compete with RTX 3060 Ti. Intel seem have a long way to achieve RTX 3080/3090 performance level, maybe with Xe 3 Celestial in 2024? I dont think either Xe 3 or Xe 4 can compete with RTX 5080/5090.
Hadn't realised that there was an Intel slide showing with which cards they will compete:
A bit strange that the RTX is missing the wattage, but where they do show comparable card's wattage they admit that theirs is not competitive except maybe the A310/A380 vs the 14nm competition. The only good spec is that the A770 can come with 16GB as Ampere is a bit stingy with VRAM. On the other hand that the 3060 comes with 12GB is hardly a huge selling point vs the 8GB 6600's.
A bit strange that the RTX is missing the wattage, but where they do show comparable card's wattage they admit that theirs is not competitive except maybe the A310/A380 vs the 14nm competition. The only good spec is that the A770 can come with 16GB as Ampere is a bit stingy with VRAM. On the other hand that the 3060 comes with 12GB is hardly a huge selling point vs the 8GB 6600's.
Soldato
Unless these cards are doing something special, who is going to pay high prices for unproven tech?
Need more numbers.
If they end up asking a higher price for a worse in all scenarios product than AMD or Nvidia then they're off their face.
Even if its using more energy and will remain bad in older games for years and years, maybe forever for some, if the price is right it can still be fine.
If they end up asking a higher price for a worse in all scenarios product than AMD or Nvidia then they're off their face.
Even if its using more energy and will remain bad in older games for years and years, maybe forever for some, if the price is right it can still be fine.
we can only hope that their driver development team is large and has plenty of expertise. they did say in one of the videos that the priority of driver optimisation would be based on the steam game chart afaik. so i think older games may take some time.
Caporegime
Hadn't realised that there was an Intel slide showing with which cards they will compete:
A bit strange that the RTX is missing the wattage, but where they do show comparable card's wattage they admit that theirs is not competitive except maybe the A310/A380 vs the 14nm competition. The only good spec is that the A770 can come with 16GB as Ampere is a bit stingy with VRAM. On the other hand that the 3060 comes with 12GB is hardly a huge selling point vs the 8GB 6600's.
Intel debunks Arc A780 rumors, such graphics card was never planned - VideoCardz.com
Intel Arc GPU week Ryan Shrout (Intel Graphics Marketing) has confirmed that there is no Arc A780 graphics card, in fact it was never planned. The rumors about potential candidate for the fastest Arc desktop model called A780 are dated back to first quarter of this year. This part was never...
Ryan Shrout confirmed Arc A780 did not existed, it never been planned.
So Arc A770 is the flagship to compete with RTX 3060 Ti. Intel seem have a long way to achieve RTX 3080/3090 performance level, maybe with Xe 3 Celestial in 2024? I dont think either Xe 3 or Xe 4 can compete with RTX 5080/5090.
I don't get it, Intel's top card is = to RTX 3060Ti / RX 6650XT, why would any one pay the same $300 - $400 for them?
Do they think the brand mindshare will carry them through? lol no.
Intel already think they are Nvidia, good luck with that.