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I think you're getting a bit worked up about it. It looks like a better card than the 4060, it's priced around the same in other countries, it has more VRAM which will matter going forward.
The 4060 has always been viewed as bad value, and it was a real disappointment at launch. It's price should be much lower than it is.
 
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SuperElectric said:
"5060 levels of performance", maybe NVIDIA will do 4060+10%, I can believe that.

"5060 price", I doubt NVIDIA will release 5060 at $250.

"Without NVIDIA Driver stability/features", agreed, not having games work is the number one issue, imo.

No mention about VRAM? :cry: It's NVIDIA's number one flaw.
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Do you think this is a disruptive product then?

I don't think it's a bad product. But it doesn't really do anything to redefine performance at the low end of the market. It's merely offering the expected generational improvement in performance at this price point.
 
McPhee said:
Do you think this is a disruptive product then?

I don't think it's a bad product. But it doesn't really do anything to redefine performance at the low end of the market. It's merely offering the expected generational improvement in performance at this price point.
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TBH I think that's a pretty level headed way of looking at it.

I think the excitement is more that there's a 3rd player which is actually worth looking at, it wont move the goalpost, or set the world on fire but it's a start and if they go with a 3rd generation of cards and can do maybe a $500 cart things could start to get interesting
 
McPhee said:
Likewise.

The biggest worry for me in buying one of these would be that it flops, and six months down the line Intel decide to walk away from the dGPU market.

Though at £250 it wouldn't be a huge worry...
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TBH I suspect this will just be an early bird premium, then they will lower it within a couple of months because of the next gen of cards.
 
McPhee said:
Do you think this is a disruptive product then?

I don't think it's a bad product. But it doesn't really do anything to redefine performance at the low end of the market. It's merely offering the expected generational improvement in performance at this price point.
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Yes, I think it is. In other threads, I get the impression that people are really cynical of NVIDIA/AMD and they are 100% convinced that the 5060/8600 class cards will have 8GB VRAM. Which would be insane in 2025.

Could the B580 have done with another 5-8% more performance to seal the deal? Sure.
Should it have launched 6-12 months earlier? Of course.

But considering how many people are so 'done' with the GPU market, always getting shafted by greedy NVIDIA and incompetent AMD, I see the B580 as a big win...

Hopefully the rumors of it being wildly unprofitable and the ARC program being cancelled are not true :D
 
humbug said:
Its getting late, i don't want to go on but Intel launched a GPU equivalent to an Nvidia GPU at the Nvidia price and universally this fundamental logically bad thing was twisted in to an emotionally good thing, marketing / politics 101.
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no he is saying its the right price but Nvidia is ripping people off with the 4060
 
humbug said:
His own chart shows the B580 is 6% faster than the 4060.

Given that the RX 7800 XT is a similar amount faster than the 4070 and has 4GB more VRam would you apply the same argument that the 4070 should be 20% cheaper than the 7800 XT? Because Steve doesn't, he never stops talking about how it should be 30% cheaper than the 4070, its hypocrisy.

Are we putting Intel above Nvidia in the hierarchy now? No, just for this review...
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The 7800XT and 4070 are in a different segment though where features like RT matter more and also the 12gb on the 4070 is still a decent amount where as 8gb has already had its day so the A580s advantage carries more weight.
Game said:
no he is saying its the right price but Nvidia is ripping people off with the 4060
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It's a better card than the 4060 for a cheaper MSRP albeit with a bit of an early adopters tax currently but I'm sure prices will settle over the next couple of months.
 
Seeing the video text, all I can think of is newspaper headlines...

INTEL releases CHEAP cards AND has possibly less stable and WORSE drivers. - The Daily Rag

Intel SMASHES graphics card market according to Dad of 3.142 - The Techist

Could Intel cure world peace with its new GPUs? - The 89 QI

More GPU news at thirteen.....
 
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