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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851

Some tasty info about Intel's future cores, Royal Core with no hyperthreading again. Also Cobra Core with 4 threads of SMT per core!
www.guru3d.com

Intel Royal Core x86 Microarchitecture: Origins, Features, and Future Plans

Korean technology media outlet Gamma0burst recently reported that Intel is developing two new core architectures named Royal Core and Cobra Core. This information comes from the LinkedIn profile of Intel's chief technical engineer, Antony Jose Emmatty, who indicates that his team has been...
www.guru3d.com www.guru3d.com

When I read "Cobra Core" my brain sees it as Cobra Kai! :D
 
Nutty667 said:
Some tasty info about Intel's future cores, Royal Core with no hyperthreading again. Also Cobra Core with 4 threads of SMT per core!
www.guru3d.com

Intel Royal Core x86 Microarchitecture: Origins, Features, and Future Plans

Korean technology media outlet Gamma0burst recently reported that Intel is developing two new core architectures named Royal Core and Cobra Core. This information comes from the LinkedIn profile of Intel's chief technical engineer, Antony Jose Emmatty, who indicates that his team has been...
www.guru3d.com www.guru3d.com

When I read "Cobra Core" my brain sees it as Cobra Kai! :D
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Is that ‘New’ new :) or just more Intel :( ‘new’
 
royal core project was nixxed.

but supposedly a very new , as in new, architecture in terms of how the cores work.

but i see the usual anti-intel people are trolling. ill leave it to them.

hello im a troll. thats what i do all day. i dont buy intel. i just visit their threads to take a dump on them. nice work if you can get it?
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as for e-cores. this p-core and e-core 'hybrid' architecture thing. yes you end up with a lot of cores for parallelism. and it comes at a thermal envelope cost.

compare to 9950X the flagship multicore chip:
www.techpowerup.com

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X Review - The New Flagship

With 16 cores and 32 threads, the Ryzen 9 9950X, powered by AMD’s Zen 5 architecture, is the fastest desktop processor we've ever tested. In our review, it breezed through application workloads and delivered high FPS rates in gaming. But at $650, it doesn’t come cheap.
www.techpowerup.com www.techpowerup.com

max power in multithreaded load the 9950X uses more power than a 14900k...depending on settings etc, they are comparable.

for those who dont want intel, just visit intel threads and take a dump.
 
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adamsleath said:
royal core project was nixxed.

but supposedly a very new , as in new, architecture in terms of how the cores work.

but i see the usual anti-intel people are trolling. ill leave it to them.

hello im a troll. thats what i do all day. i dont buy intel. i just visit their threads to take a dump on them. nice work if you can get it?
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What Intel need is more people patting them on the back and pretending Intels technology isn’t regurgitated archaic junk. Everyone needs to let Intel know what a great job they’re doing and support them as much as possible on the desktop so they keep pouring resources into it data centre CPUs.

For the next 24 months I’m only buying Intel GPUs. To be fair, I have found Intel Flex and Arc cards are pretty skookum.
 
Nutty667 said:
Some tasty info about Intel's future cores, Royal Core with no hyperthreading again. Also Cobra Core with 4 threads of SMT per core!
www.guru3d.com

Intel Royal Core x86 Microarchitecture: Origins, Features, and Future Plans

Korean technology media outlet Gamma0burst recently reported that Intel is developing two new core architectures named Royal Core and Cobra Core. This information comes from the LinkedIn profile of Intel's chief technical engineer, Antony Jose Emmatty, who indicates that his team has been...
www.guru3d.com www.guru3d.com

When I read "Cobra Core" my brain sees it as Cobra Kai! :D
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Interesting... 4 threads per SMT core, Cobra Core here I come!!! :cool:

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COBRA CORE!!!!
 
jigger said:
What Intel need is more people patting them on the back and pretending Intels technology isn’t regurgitated archaic junk. Everyone needs to let Intel know what a great job they’re doing and support them as much as possible on the desktop so they keep pouring resources into it data centre CPUs.

For the next 24 months I’m only buying Intel GPUs. To be fair, I have found Intel Flex and Arc cards are pretty skookum.
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still dumping.
troll is as troll does.
 
adamsleath said:
compare to 9950X the flagship multicore chip:
www.techpowerup.com

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X Review - The New Flagship

With 16 cores and 32 threads, the Ryzen 9 9950X, powered by AMD’s Zen 5 architecture, is the fastest desktop processor we've ever tested. In our review, it breezed through application workloads and delivered high FPS rates in gaming. But at $650, it doesn’t come cheap.
www.techpowerup.com www.techpowerup.com

max power in multithreaded load the 9950X uses more power than a 14900k...depending on settings etc, they are comparable.
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Have you even looked at the charts you've linked to? The 9950X uses less power underload in MT (220W vs a 14900k at 281W) and then look at the MT efficiency, it's miles ahead of a 14900k.

If you're trying to compare a stock 14900k to the 9950X that's tweaked to use every bit of juice possible you're doing it wrong.
 
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le sigh. look at the graphs again.
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it is one cherry picked graph admittedly. but they (ie a 9950X) can draw a lot of power in certain circumstances.

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but sure i'll stick with my 2017 cpu. and prep my bulldozer for all those unsold intel chips sitting on the shelf. Intel's only problem is, is that they are not AMD. Apparently.

speaking off the cuff. based on what I've read the newer core designs were nixxed by Gelsinger etal , 'for reasons' there are sentiments around that they are stuck in a rut. and need 'something new'

anywho. i'll leave the trolling to others. I'm more interested in new interations that actually bring improvements to products. and this is an Intel thread. not a marketing thread for AMD. i suppose if you want competition, you get two players in an arena basically doing the same thing, and at the end of the bout one of the players ends up 'winning'. Personally, I don't buy top tier parts. so essentually in that sense, i am 'always losing'

enjoy. <3

just to reiterate. i'll be buying a 265k when it is available. as written. as i do. As with all the cpu's I have Ive adjusted them in BIOS for lowest voltage and thermals at specified stock clocks.
 
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adamsleath said:
le sigh. look at the graphs again.
power-multithread.png


it is one cherry picked graph admittedly. but they can draw a lot of power in certain circumstances.

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but sure i'll stick with my 2017 cpu. and prep my bulldozer for all those unsold intel chips sitting on the shelf. Intel's only problem is, is that they are not AMD. Apparently.

speaking off the cuff. based on what I've read the newer core designs were nixxed by Gelsinger etal , 'for reasons' there are sentiments around that they are stuck in a rut. and need 'something new'
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Even your cherry picked graph shows the 9950X 60W less than a 14900k (whilst doing considerably more work too).

If you're trying to use the Max PWR 9950X figures to compare to a stock 14900k you're an absolute joker.
 
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ARL supposedly uses 100w less than RPL so will probably end up comparable or Intel could even come out slightly ahead in efficiency.

Gaming is what I’m interested in though and that has been a let down so far from Zen 5 with it not even beating RPL, so it’ll be a toss up between a 7800X3D or ARL.
 
4 layer cluster.

Per layer config.
Nameless non triggering 16 core CPU
64-128gb of RAM
Flex 170 Xe graphics
Optane NVME

8 clients per layer.

Mean power draw is the absolute best possible for this config using desktop hardware with the required features, stability and performance.

I’ve tried other brands for this task and found them deeply unpleasant to use with unsatisfactory performance. The increase in power use was horrendous.
 
Nutty667 said:
Some tasty info about Intel's future cores, Royal Core with no hyperthreading again. Also Cobra Core with 4 threads of SMT per core!
www.guru3d.com

Intel Royal Core x86 Microarchitecture: Origins, Features, and Future Plans

Korean technology media outlet Gamma0burst recently reported that Intel is developing two new core architectures named Royal Core and Cobra Core. This information comes from the LinkedIn profile of Intel's chief technical engineer, Antony Jose Emmatty, who indicates that his team has been...
www.guru3d.com www.guru3d.com

When I read "Cobra Core" my brain sees it as Cobra Kai! :D
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Nevermind that all rumours for ages now are that Royal Core was dropped, but further rumours which have RC without any SMT (with the Intel PR tagline of "SMT hinders max single-core speeds") and then next Cobra Core at 4-way SMT?

I just cannot see Intel being that inconsistent making this rumour extremely unlikely.
 
seeing is believing.
various things can happen. whether it will or not is fairy dust. it's up to whether resources in r and d are deployed to develop those new products. last i heard it was nixxed. tomorrow, later today after lunch who knows. perhaps theyll revive the projects. they have to come up with something. or not. up to them.
www.notebookcheck.net

Intel reportedly dismantles Jim Keller's revolutionary Royal Core project and cancels Beast Lake

Intel has reportedly canceled the upcoming Beast Lake architecture according to a new leak. According to past reports, Beast Lake had a considerable focus on single-core performance. In addition to canceling Beast Lake, the report from Moore’s Law Is Dead also claims that we may not see the...
www.notebookcheck.net www.notebookcheck.net
it was Jim Keller's baby supposedly. but this is old news. on again off again. who knows?
 
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adamsleath said:
seeing is believing.
various things can happen. whether it will or not is fairy dust. it's up to whether resources in r and d are deployed to develop those new products. last i heard it was nixxed. tomorrow, later today after lunch who knows. perhaps theyll revive the projects. they have to come up with something. or not. up to them.
www.notebookcheck.net

Intel reportedly dismantles Jim Keller's revolutionary Royal Core project and cancels Beast Lake

Intel has reportedly canceled the upcoming Beast Lake architecture according to a new leak. According to past reports, Beast Lake had a considerable focus on single-core performance. In addition to canceling Beast Lake, the report from Moore’s Law Is Dead also claims that we may not see the...
www.notebookcheck.net www.notebookcheck.net
it was Jim Keller's baby supposedly. but this is old news. on again off again. who knows?
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Royal Core will be something very special IMO, as Jim Keller is just that good. Look what he did to Zen while he was at AMD, and what AMD did with the plans he left in place before he left.
 
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