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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851

Surely it can be that bad, I'm currently using a amd setup with my 4090 but have a 265k sitting here ready to install when I get my mobo, looking forward to TB5 on the mobo too

I don't know. I have just heard that the U7 will be a few percent less powerful than the 14700K, but that's generally, for games it could be worse. And the power consumption is only better for normal desktop applications, and will be around the same as the 14700K for games. If that's the case then we aren't talking enough to get me to buy one.
But I am hoping that I am completely wrong. Like I said, I haven't been following things. I have just picked up on a few negative rumours.
 
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Temperature.

...hwinfo shot though, shows 89C max at 370W max ('unlimited' power profile)
 
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Only a few days more to go. But what I was hoping for from ADL is a return sanity with regards to power consumption. I guess this 370W is max with zero limits set - and that last 200W probably gain 2% or something low like that - but it is not a good sign.

Still, it will be fun to see what some with deep pockets can do with this with £1000 motherboards and £100s of high clocking RAM. Ring-bus clocked to hilt might yields some far more impressive results. Hopefully at settings which aren't quite suicide runs though!

If they reduced the ring bus so much, was it because of degrading RPL?

Or was it that TSMC's N3P cannot handle more there (and whatever accelerated ageing test Intel normally do may not work with TSMC's process or they are being cautious)?

Or was high ring-bus a power hog?

Certainly they would have done anything they could to not lose gaming benchmarks to RPL, so I pressume there was nothing they could do at this stage. In hindsight, maybe more L3 might have helped somewhat but while it is hard to get prices of wafers and ARL is a big mix but a few more mm2 for cache surely woudn't have broken Intel's piggy-bank. Or maybe they would have?
 

Can def confirm the person doing this testing is a clown.

The traditional methods of tuning won’t work on arl.
 
Certainly they would have done anything they could to not lose gaming benchmarks to RPL, so I pressume there was nothing they could do at this stage. In hindsight, maybe more L3 might have helped somewhat but while it is hard to get prices of wafers and ARL is a big mix but a few more mm2 for cache surely woudn't have broken Intel's piggy-bank. Or maybe they would have?

It is an odd one but Intel's roadmap shows performance not being a focus for Arrow Lake and a lot talked up about AI and "features" and low power performance being the next focus :s Intel seems to have lost touch with what consumers actually want over what they think investors want to hear.
 
Intel seems to have lost touch with what consumers actually want

AMDlake

apparently.

it's just a cpu.
i played many hours of online games on a geforce 1050. i wasnt fapping over a benchmark score. with a card that literally is 20 X the price. and cpu's that for games are largely irrelevant except for e-peen.

the hype is to churn thru new merch.
 
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why is that?

why can't one adjust settings in the bios's of ARL boards?

The way to tune arl is a lot different. You can’t just slam vcore into it and this guy does. When nda is lifted I’ll be able to share more.

In short, if want to play with a new platform with a lot of tuning options, get arl. If you only want gaming performance get a 9800x3d
 
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So now it's about energy efficiency CPU's .... Well, that's not going to help us gamers and 3D designers!!!

Yep. I am very dubious about this generation. It seems like an improvement over the 14th gen, but I didn't upgrade to 14th gen because it didn't offer enough and I am not sure that 15th gen does either.

I suppose we shall see in a few days time.
 
Yep. I am very dubious about this generation. It seems like an improvement over the 14th gen, but I didn't upgrade to 14th gen because it didn't offer enough and I am not sure that 15th gen does either.

I suppose we shall see in a few days time.
I am waiting to upgrade my current PC and just waiting for the release of these and the 9800X3D before making a choice.

Will most likely buy something towards the end of November for Black Friday but unsure what at the moment.
 
I am waiting to upgrade my current PC and just waiting for the release of these and the 9800X3D before making a choice.

Will most likely buy something towards the end of November for Black Friday but unsure what at the moment.

If your main use case is gaming, Ryzen 9800X3D or 9950X3D will be far superior to Arrow Lake.
 
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