Base clock is usually the minimum clock that an Intel CPU will run at. Try running anything that makes use of AVX and you'll most likely be limited to base clock, but for general use you probably won't ever be limited that low.
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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017
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I've got several projects lined up for the next year if the APU's are as good as hoped, and with the much lower operating temperatures Ryzen offers (hopefully not offset by the Vega GPU) it will mean i am able to get much better PPW, and much better performance per U of rack space. I'm looking forward to the Coffee Lake (from a non personal point-of-view), but I've not really got much choice presently.
What is not going to sell well? Do you mean the whole range of 8th Generation Core i3/5/i7's?
No BCLK OC just normal XMP profiles.
The Kabylake/KabylakeX & Skylake/SkylakeX scale nicely especially above 3600Mhz to 4133. Shame everyone keeps the same mantra "no benefit of high speed ram ugh!".
CoffeeLake is exactly the same as Skylake, so it would greatly benefit for the highest ram possible you can put on it.
Heres a decent look at how it scales https://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/page3.html
This is 6 cores with 2 channels. We know the effectiveness of memory usage isn't great with Kaby and you start pushing against that wall even more. Depending on what type of load the system is under of course. Will be nice to see if Intel have addressed that at all as I think it could become pretty obvious.
I think it's more like severe diminishing returns, literally double the cost to go from 3000MHz to 4133MHz (16Gb kit) you could spend that extra £120 on something that will give you much more performance, so unless you have the best graphics card already then it's really pushing the boat out for not a huge increase.
Did you check the latency on the first page? 4000C19 module used, which is horrible in today's terms.
Right now we have 4500C18. There is a big difference in latency and performance.
That is an older article. 4500 is quite a new kit if i remember.
Yeah because the efficiency is pretty low to start with it's not long before the curve starts to get steep fast. Intel kind of addressed that problem triple channels and then later quads along with higher base clocks.
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The Core i5 8400 looks the only reasonable value SKU there.
At the bare minimum, then, you need to add 20% to the GBP value.
No , those prices are from a genuine uk retailer and inc VAT
So what exactly was you expecting from it that has turned you so bitter. I remember many people predicting it would be around Haswell level. What on earth gave you the impression that pre-ordering a predicted Haswell level Cpu to replace a .... Haswell Cpu, would give you a massive perfomance increase? Even when you had it you seemed rather impressed and were even arguing the toss with zornyan and the like. lol.
Were not going to go through this again in a few months time are we
He only uses 1 of its cores at a time, clearly by the way he goes on, makes you wonder why he bought an 8 core CPU to start with.
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If i'm going to upgrade it will be to future proof, the 4790K is an old and dead-end platform, i'll be buying a CPU that is 3 years old and slower than the 1600. i mean seriously the 4790K is the same CPU as my current one but with Hyper Threading, its not much faster.
I don't just want to swap one 3 year old 4 core CPU for another 4 core CPU with 8 threads that's a bit faster, its also uses more power so my cooling would have to be upgraded, more cost....
What i want is the latest and much faster platform, a 6 core CPU with 12 threads, the next thing you may advise me to do here 'i'm guessing by your other comment' is to get an 8700K platform, assuming the CPU is £380 (not an unreasonable guess) the Motherboard £150 and the DDR4 memory £150 that's near £700.
The Memory and Motherboard on the Ryzen system is the same price, but the CPU is £200 less, so £500 instead of £700, no it wont be as fast as the 8700K but not that far off and massively faster than my current CPU.
Fair enough?
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No, why would I advised anyone to buy an 8700K unless you were twitch gaming at 1080p, even then it would more likely be an 8600K depending on how much HT helps? I was simply pointing out what would give you best value for money, since that what you seem fixed on, and even though it is a sidegrade, rather than an upgrade I thought it was a viable option since you hadn't bought a new Ryzen system yet, but maybe you are just saving up.
Oh, and when you over clock the 4590K vs the 4790K the increase in power draw is about 10-15w, so your cooling must be near it's critical limit if it couldn't manage that. Are you regularly seeing temps into the 90's?