You could get a 1700 with a B350 for less than 350.
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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017
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i5s and i7s have exactly the same amount of cores.
And you think the 1600 is twice as fast as a 4690k at 4.5ghz? You'll be spending more money to get less gaming performance if you got a 1600 over a 4790k. You are the one that likes value for money afterall.
Ryzen 2 will be out before you put your hand in your pocket lol.
The has 1600 2 more cores and 50% more threads and 5% higher IPC than the 4790K.
The Ryzen 1600 is almost twice as fast as the 7600K, it gets almost twice the lows in games as CPU demanding as Crysis 3, the 7600K has 12% higher IPC than the 4790K and it clock's higher, which completely negates its Hyper Threading, and yet the Ryzen 1600 beats 'IT' by some 90% in the demanding minimum frame rates.
How can a CPU, the 4790K which is no faster than the 7600K be better than the Ryzen 1600 when it beats the 7600K by 90%? you're not making any sense at all, you're wrong, very very wrong.
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Yep this is also true, i expect the price for the 8700K to be closer to £400 at release to be honest, due to *exchange rate* etc
lets be honest, these are going to be milked by resellers, everyone knows the 7700k is one of the most highly regarded gaming CPU's around, you only have to read forums to see the buzz and excitement over a *6 core 7700k in the form of the 8700K*. I bet they will sell like hotcakes, so naturally they will get scalped for a while.So yeah i was being conservative with the 1600 and an X370, to be honest though, i reckon you will probably be able to pickup an X370 and a 1700 for the same price as a retail 8700K on some of the usual sites.
Maybe although thats very debatable to the point I'd say no, but you have a much better system with AMD.
So, when are you buying your Ryzen system then? Have you decided on what board you want, and what RAM you are going with? I guarantee you won't bother answering this question and avoid that also.
1600 twice as fast as the 7600k lol.
The only example of this is crysis 3, how many times per week do you play that?
You are comparing 12 threads Vs 4. The 4790k is not slower than a 1600 in gaming, it just isn't.
I showed you a screenshot of my haswell 8 thread Xeon Vs my 1700 in firestrike the other day, haswell best it in everything but physics.
Strictly speaking, Coffee Lake is the desktop version of the Kaby Lake refresh for mobile, both of which are classed as 8th gen 14nm. Then we get the Cannonlake shrink to 10nm for mobile, then we get Ice Lake, the 9th gen 10nm for desktop.
So Kaby Lake is both 7th and 8th gen, 8th gen is both 14nm and 10nm, and 10nm is both 8th gen and 9th gen!
no one knows yet, wait for the proper reviews in a couple of weeks.
Probably, October isn't far off so time will tell... if you take through the thread you'll learn nothing - for some reason it's become a 'Reasons Ryzen is better than everything' spam fest...
But wasn't you arguing games don't make use of 8 cores? Why don't you game on the Xeon and why did you buy Ryzen if the Xeon is faster... You really don't have a clue what you're talking about.
I mean to me that looks like the 4790K is 20% faster than the 7600K... but I'm just wrong... skip to 0:52 for the same frame.
Have you noticed, we still haven't had an answer and my question was avoided again?
Thank you, the 1600 is 90% faster, so 20% is nothing like good enough ^^^ the 1600 is the only one which makes sense, you have to agree now.
There is a good mixture there, 4 games, all of them with significantly lower performance on the 7600K than on the Ryzen 1600.
But to adress Crysis 3, If your only stressing one of 6 cores then you're not stressing the CPU at all really.
Cryengine is a very well optimised Engine that will use whatever performance and resource your hardware has available to it to give you the best performance an visual combination.
If when its stressing the CPU like it is and the result is twice the performance from one CPU to another then its because said CPU is twice as powerful.
A bit like your much earlier adventure with me in this thread Cinebench single threaded performance is not the be all and end all of CPU performance because its the only thing Intel still have over AMD when everything else has gone to #### for them, a CPU has and will use all of its cores, its multi-threaded performance matters just as much if not more, it matters a lot if what you are looking for is multi-threaded performance. if not a G4560 is the only CPU you need.
There is a good mixture there, 4 games, all of them with significantly lower performance on the 7600K than on the Ryzen 1600.
But to adress Crysis 3, If your only stressing one of 6 cores then you're not stressing the CPU at all really.
Cryengine is a very well optimised Engine that will use whatever performance and resource your hardware has available to it to give you the best performance an visual combination.
If when its stressing the CPU like it is and the result is twice the performance from one CPU to another then its because said CPU is twice as powerful.
A bit like your much earlier adventure with me in this thread Cinebench single threaded performance is not the be all and end all of CPU performance because its the only thing Intel still have over AMD when everything else has gone to #### for them, a CPU has and will use all of its cores, its multi-threaded performance matters just as much if not more, it matters a lot if what you are looking for is multi-threaded performance. if not a G4560 is the only CPU you need.
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Yes, 6 threads have become the minimum now really. I do more than game lol, the 16 threads do come in handy. Just not when gaming. I want something that can do both without compromise or the massive power consumption and heat x299 brings.
I mean to me that looks like the 4790K is 20% faster than the 7600K... but I'm just wrong... skip to 0:52 for the same frame.
Have you noticed, we still haven't had an answer and my question was avoided again?
You've got this all wrong mate, buy ryzen and be happy like the rest of us......