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This is what I've said the performance is hit and miss. Having to rely on devs to scale their game over 8 cores is a bad idea.
We can see that destiny 2 and forza 7 do not do this. There will be many upcoming games that do not do this either.

It scores 120+fps it's hardly an issue though is it. Still perfectly playable for anyone unless you are purely chasing figures.
 
Is there anything outside of tombraider and ashes of the singularity to show its getting faster? After agesa 1.0.0.6 there has been no improvements as far as I can see.



This is what I've said the performance is hit and miss. Having to rely on devs to scale their game over 8 cores is a bad idea.
We can see that destiny 2 and forza 7 do not do this. There will be many upcoming games that do not do this either.

@AndreiD Having seen the destiny slide was pretty much the last deciding factor that made me want to switch back to intel. As much as a lot of their business practices stink, you know an i7 is always going to be at the top.


You really don't understand what AGESA was about.

What your saying is people should buy the i7 so games can continue to be CPU limited and crap. With that kind of thinking you might as well buy a console.
 
Interestingly enough there's a Russian outlet that tests various CPU & GPU configurations with new games, weird how this keeps happening in all of these recently released games:
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Weird stuff this.
 
Dude what are you trying to point out? We know AMD is slightly behind it's just not as bad as you try to make out.

Look at the results apart from Divinity 2 they are pretty close, close enough for you not to notice.
 
It scores 120+fps it's hardly an issue though is it. Still perfectly playable for anyone unless you are purely chasing figures.

In simple terms what these two are arguing is to build a PC to benchmark stuff that can't take full advantage of what PC hardware has to offer.
 
It scores 120+fps it's hardly an issue though is it. Still perfectly playable for anyone unless you are purely chasing figures.

Its an issue for high refresh rate monitors. If ryzen if 50fps behind an i7 in poorly coded games now with the GPU's we have. What will happen in the future with faster GPU's?

You really don't understand what AGESA was about.

What your saying is people should buy the i7 so games can continue to be CPU limited and crap. With that kind of thinking you might as well buy a console.

Agesa brought better memory speeds/compatibility, as shown in other tests even with 3466 memory, its still a fair bit behind.
I might be wrong here and it is indeed getting faster but I have nothing to show this, do you have anything that shows this?

Nobody with a 8700k will be CPU limited, in fact nobody with a kabylake i7 will be CPU limited. They are already extracting the most out of the GPU.
In fact, as the screens that andrei posted, the 4770k is getting the most out of a 1080ti.
 
Dude what are you trying to point out? We know AMD is slightly behind it's just not as bad as you try to make out.

Look at the results apart from Divinity 2 they are pretty close, close enough for you not to notice.

And yet in others its slower than a 2600k. Hit and miss, and placing trust into devs to take advantage of 8 cores is a bad idea.
 
Its an issue for high refresh rate monitors. If ryzen if 50fps behind an i7 in poorly coded games now with the GPU's we have. What will happen in the future with faster GPU's?



Agesa brought better memory speeds/compatibility, as shown in other tests even with 3466 memory, its still a fair bit behind.
I might be wrong here and it is indeed getting faster but I have nothing to show this, do you have anything that shows this?

Nobody with a 8700k will be CPU limited, in fact nobody with a kabylake i7 will be CPU limited. They are already extracting the most out of the GPU.
In fact, as the screens that andrei posted, the 4770k is getting the most out of a 1080ti.

That's the odd game mate the majority are close. My god you do realise just how much you sound like zornyan with the dual core nonsense and cherry picked game benchmarks.

Now I don't use a high refresh monitor but how much of a problem is a game playing at 120+fps?
 
The update fixed many bugs with Ryzen and AM4. I'm sure updates for RAM was included but gaming performance wasn't why AGESA was a big deal.
 
Update fixed many bugs with Ryzen and AM4. I'm sure updates for RAM was included but gaming performance wasn't why AGESA was a big deal.
But ram speeds do tie in with the speed of ryzen so it was kind of a big deal for gamers.
I've still not seen any proof of ryzen getting faster.

Bang my heads against my keyboard lol. They are all close enough for you not to notice how do not understand that.

They are close in GPU limited games, but fall away in CPU limited/poorly coded games. Say ryzen is 20% slower than kaby in a poorly coded game. When we see the next gen of GPU's from nvidia i expect that gap to increase.
 
Well yeah, if you don't care about a few extra fps then buying anything above a Pentium G is a complete waste of money.
Don't forget that you said that.

They are close in GPU limited games, but fall away in CPU limited/poorly coded games. Say ryzen is 20% slower than kaby in a poorly coded game. When we see the next gen of GPU's from nvidia i expect that gap to increase.
Why would that matter they are still perfectly playable. It doesn't make sense to alter the way you buy hardware to support badly made games.
 
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Why would that matter they are still perfectly playable. It doesn't make sense to alter the way you buy hardware to support badly made games.

Or you know, the hardware just doesn't have the performance the game needs, in this case, single core performance, which makes that certain hardware choice not a really good one for gaming.
 
But ram speeds do tie in with the speed of ryzen so it was kind of a big deal for gamers.
I've still not seen any proof of ryzen getting faster.



They are close in GPU limited games, but fall away in CPU limited/poorly coded games. Say ryzen is 20% slower than kaby in a poorly coded game. When we see the next gen of GPU's from nvidia i expect that gap to increase.

Stop buying games that can't make use of the hardware you have then.
 
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