Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

Doobedoo · 23 Sep 2017 at 16:48

AndreiD said:
I'm basing it on your supposition that 120+ fps doesn't matter

Does it matter. Does it matter that another cpu will get you a few more fps if the one you have still allows you to play a game perfectly fine?

Mate you really do not make any sense to me.

gavinh87 · 23 Sep 2017 at 16:48

Doobedoo said:
Why would that matter they are still perfectly playable. It doesn't make sense to alter the way you buy hardware to support badly made games.

So your suggestion is we dont play games that are not well optimised?
Tell that to PUBG and ARK players.

Doobedoo · 23 Sep 2017 at 16:48

AndreiD said:
Or you know, the hardware just doesn't have the performance the game needs, in this case, single core performance, which makes that certain hardware choice not a really good one for gaming.

Why?

Doobedoo · 23 Sep 2017 at 16:51

gavinh87 said:
So your suggestion is we dont play games that are not well optimised?
Tell that to PUBG and ARK players.

Your really not getting it Gavin I'm struggling to understand where you are coming from mate. For the um tenth time, if you can play a game absolutely fine then why would it matter to you, unless it was for the sole purpose of epeen bragging rights?

AndreiD · 23 Sep 2017 at 16:51

Doobedoo said:
Why?

Why buy hardware that's clearly not fit for the tasks you want to use it for?

jigger · 23 Sep 2017 at 16:52

AndreiD said:
Or you know, the hardware just doesn't have the performance the game needs, in this case, single core performance, which makes that certain hardware choice not a really good one for gaming.

You just pointed out how well Sandybrige is doing and are now arguing Ryzen hasn't got enough single threaded performance when we know Kabylake and Ryzen are neck and neck with anything else you'd like to mention.

Less than 2 pages and back to making silly arguments.

Doobedoo · 23 Sep 2017 at 16:55

AndreiD said:
Why buy hardware that's clearly not fit for the tasks you want to use it for?

Define not fit?

gavinh87 · 23 Sep 2017 at 16:55

jigger said:
Stop buying games that can't make use of the hardware you have then.

So don't play games that don't play nice on AMD?

Doobedoo said:
Your really not getting it Gavin I'm struggling to understand where you are coming from mate. For the um tenth time, if you can play a game absolutely fine then why would it matter to you, unless it was for the sole purpose of epeen bragging rights?

Again, I play at 165hz, when kaby can do 170 vs ryzens 120 then it kind of is a big deal. In destiny's case, ryzen cannot feed a 1080ti fast enough.
Whats going to happen with a 1180ti?

gavinh87 · 23 Sep 2017 at 16:57

jigger said:
You just pointed out how well Sandybrige is doing and are now arguing Ryzen hasn't got enough single threaded performance when we know Kabylake and Ryzen are neck and neck with anything else you'd like to mention.

Less than 2 pages and back to making silly arguments.

Yes, when sandy is neck and neck with ryzen there is an issue.
But do we just hope for devs to fix it? Or hope that future releases don't have that issue?
Buying on hopes is madness.

Doobedoo · 23 Sep 2017 at 16:58

jigger said:
You just pointed out how well Sandybrige is doing and are now arguing Ryzen hasn't got enough single threaded performance when we know Kabylake and Ryzen are neck and neck with anything else you'd like to mention.

Less than 2 pages and back to making silly arguments.

Lol and I've seen them pull up others for unnecessarily defending product choices.

I've got absolutley no problem with someone recommending a 8700k or a ryzen, but to try and make out a ryzen is not fit for purpose is complete nonsense.

Doobedoo · 23 Sep 2017 at 16:59

gavinh87 said:
Again, I play at 165hz, when kaby can do 170 vs ryzens 120 then it kind of is a big deal. In destiny's case, ryzen cannot feed a 1080ti fast enough.
Whats going to happen with a 1180ti?

So for you it's a no brainer. We get that but how many are playing on a 165hz monitor? For those who are not it's meaningless.

AndreiD · 23 Sep 2017 at 17:01

Doobedoo said:
So for you it's a no brainer. We get that but how many are playing on a 165hz monitor? For those who are not it's meaningless.

Quite true, if you're on a 60Hz monitor, anything above a Pentium G is meaningless

Doobedoo · 23 Sep 2017 at 17:01

gavinh87 said:
Yes, when sandy is neck and neck with ryzen there is an issue.
But do we just hope for devs to fix it? Or hope that future releases don't have that issue?
Buying on hopes is madness.

Lol but why is it neck and neck? And when it's neck and neck with ryzen it's also neck and neck with newer Intel cpu's.

IT Troll · 23 Sep 2017 at 17:01

Doobedoo said:
Anyone that can perceive a 7fps performance difference will win a bag of haribo from me.

I can definitely tell the difference between 1fps and 8fps. Please send me haribo.

jigger · 23 Sep 2017 at 17:01

gavinh87 said:
So don't play games that don't play nice on AMD?

Again, I play at 165hz, when kaby can do 170 vs ryzens 120 then it kind of is a big deal. In destiny's case, ryzen cannot feed a 1080ti fast enough.
Whats going to happen with a 1180ti?

No Gavin. Don't buy games that can't make use of your hardware and then moan that the hardware is crap...

If the average PC user applies the same kind of defeatist thinking to purchases as you then the PC will fall behind the console as a gaming platform.

Doobedoo · 23 Sep 2017 at 17:03

AndreiD said:
Quite true, if you're on a 60Hz monitor, anything above a Pentium G is meaningless

Anything that is in-perceivable is meaningless. Anything that plays a game perfectly fine is....

Doobedoo · 23 Sep 2017 at 17:03

IT Troll said:
I can definitely tell the difference between 1fps and 8fps. Please send me haribo.

No problem mate I'll be happy too.

Perfect_Chaos · 23 Sep 2017 at 17:05

Isn't 165hz 6ms and 120fps/hz 8ms?.. 2ms difference, I'd hardly be able to tell between them. Much more noticeable from 60 to 120, 60 being 16ms.

gavinh87 · 23 Sep 2017 at 17:07

Doobedoo said:
Lol but why is it neck and neck? And when it's neck and neck with ryzen it's also neck and neck with newer Intel cpu's.

No, the 2600k is nowhere near the 7700k. It is however, in the screens andrei posted faster than the 1800x. Which it shouldn't be but who's going to fix that?
Whats saying we aren't going to see it again? Very hit and miss performance with ryzen and gaming.

jigger said:
No Gavin. Don't buy games that can't make use of your hardware and then moan that the hardware is crap...

So buy ryzen and hope game devs can make use of my hardware? Or get intel and know that the i7 will be at the top?

gavinh87 · 23 Sep 2017 at 17:09

Perfect_Chaos said:
Isn't 165hz 6ms and 120fps/hz 8ms?.. 2ms difference, I'd hardly be able to tell between them. Much more noticeable from 60 to 120, 60 being 16ms.

The difference from 60-120 isn't as big as 120-165hz no, but I can tell.