Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

Doobedoo · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:06

smilingcrow said:
The amount of assumptions and guesses that people hand out here as if they are facts or based on a reliable source reminds me of cults and conspiracy theorists. It’s laughable.

It's a fair assumption to make but I agree it doesn't make me right though, or a conspiracy theorist lol

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jigger · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:08

Doobedoo said:
It's a fair assumption to make but I agree it doesn't make me right though, or a conspiracy theorist lol .

I don't think that's aimed at you.

AndreiD · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:09

Doobedoo said:
Maybe it is right but if they are reputable then why have they broke nda?

From what the Lab501 review author is saying in the comments there, apparently they didn't break NDA. The major outlets that receive review samples from Intel have their NDA until the 5th, but either someone at Intel is getting fired or Lab501 managed to get Coffee Lake samples from somewhere else.

gavinh87 · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:10

AMD sent lab501 a threadripper reviewers kit with the name etched onto it, like you know, other well known reviewers.
Wait for reliable sites lmao.

http://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipseturi/amd-ryzen-threadripper-part-i-reviewers-pack/2

Doobedoo · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:14

gavinh87 said:
AMD sent lab501 a threadripper reviewers kit with the name etched onto it, like you know, other well known reviewers.
Wait for reliable sites lmao.

http://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipseturi/amd-ryzen-threadripper-part-i-reviewers-pack/2

So knowing the rules of an nda they published the details anyway. Does that mean 8pack can also? Or what about all the other "reputable thread ripper reviewers"? It's just all a bit strange but no doubt quenches the thirst for those craving information.

AndreiD · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:15

@gavinh87 they get invited to all of the AMD events (they were at that Threadripper LN2 event for example).

Here's a google translate of their conclusion they're pretty fair.

8 Pack · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:15

No I respect NDAs. These guys have no place in the industry. Hit seekers instead of a fair playing field.

I am surprised Monstru was actually sober enough to write a review..........

Doobedoo · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:15

jigger said:
I don't think that's aimed at you.

It's so hard to tell especially when I was quoted lol. Oh well never mind

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gavinh87 · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:16

Doobedoo said:
So knowing the rules of an nda they published the details anyway. Does that mean 8pack can also? Or what about all the other "reputable thread ripper reviewers"? It's just all a bit strange but no doubt quenches the thirst for those craving information.

When the i9 leaks came out the ones that breached NDA, they had nothing done to them. In fact some of them even leaked the skylake the year before and again intel still sent them CPU's under NDA.

AndreiD · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:16

Doobedoo said:
So knowing the rules of an nda they published the details anyway. Does that mean 8pack can also? Or what about all the other "reputable thread ripper reviewers"? It's just all a bit strange but no doubt quenches the thirst for those craving information.

Monstru, the reviewer said they didn't break NDA with the review, whatever that means. Someone at Intel probably made a mistake.

Doobedoo · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:16

8 Pack said:
No I respect NDAs. These guys have no place in the industry. Hit seekers instead of a fair playing field. I am surprised Monstru was actually sober enough to write a review..........

So I doubt you can give your assessment of those results then? No worries it's not long to go now.

Martini1991 · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:17

AndreiD said:
Monstru, the reviewer said they didn't break NDA with the review, whatever that means. Someone at Intel probably made a mistake.

Could have got the sample from a mobo vendor.

8 Pack · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:17

No they did not sign NDA at a guess they got the CPUs through unofficial channels.

Some board vendors also want reviews first. This is fact.

Certain OC guys where given permission to leak some i9 stuff on 16 Core for example. They did not break NDA.

Doobedoo · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:19

AndreiD said:
Monstru, the reviewer said they didn't break NDA with the review, whatever that means. Someone at Intel probably made a mistake.

Ok but how would intel be responsible for others publishing benchmark results? 8 pack has managed not too despite many trying to get something out of him.
I think it's safe to say those results belong with wcctech and the like.

gavinh87 · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:21

Doobedoo said:
Ok but how would intel be responsible for others publishing benchmark results? 8 pack has managed not too despite many trying to get something out of him.
I think it's safe to say those results belong with wcctech and the like.

8pack needs to keep intel on side. OCUK have chips to sell

Doobedoo · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:22

8 Pack said:
Some board vendors also want reviews first. This is fact.

Certain OC guys where given permission to leak some i9 stuff on 16 Core for example. They did not break NDA.

I suppose that makes sense as they want people to buy them. Good P.R

gavinh87 · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:22

AndreiD said:
@gavinh87 they get invited to all of the AMD events (they were at that Threadripper LN2 event for example).

Here's a google translate of their conclusion they're pretty fair.

One might call them a reliable source then?

Doobedoo · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:22

gavinh87 said:
8pack needs to keep intel on side. OCUK have chips to sell

Naturally

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AndreiD · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:23

@Doobedoo read 8Pack's comment from above.
I thought someone at Intel might have made a mistake and gave them a short NDA, but it seems they didn't sign an NDA to begin with and they got the samples through other channels.

And just because you don't like the results doesn't mean that their testing methodology is flawed or that the results are wrong.

Doobedoo · 29 Sep 2017 at 22:26

AndreiD said:
@Doobedoo And just because you don't like the results doesn't mean that their testing methodology is flawed or that the results are wrong.

Nothing to do with not liking them they just look wrong to me. Sorry but they do, again like I've already said, if I'm wrong I'm wrong it's not a problem. Relax dude

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Doobedoo said:
Nothing to do with not liking them they just look wrong to me. Sorry but they do, again like I've already said, if I'm wrong I'm wrong it's not a problem. 8 pack did also sort of question them also in a way but maybe I was reading to much into that too . Relax dude I have no stake in the outcome .

Lol not sure what happened there

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