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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

OCUK don't break NDA its that simple. We use our CPU's to prepare, systems, bundles and binned CPU's. We use them to be ahead of the rest in every area. Intel support us in this as do AMD. I have tested many Retail CPU's these guys only one ES.

You cant say its in any way relevant....
 
jigger said:
It's more than a bit shifty to run tests on ES kit and present the data as fact. It might not be retail specs. So pinch of salt needed.
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gavinh87 said:
An ES sample against a stock retail can't be that different.
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Many official reviews are done with ES chips but they will be the same stepping/revision as the retail chips so it's a non issue.
Some complain at this because there's the possibility that they were cherry picked so the O/C results may be atypical.
But this is true even for the final spec code chips that Intel also hand out so the only way around this is to buy your own chip at retail.
The real issue with ES chips is when testing earlier revisions.
 
smilingcrow said:
Many official reviews are done with ES chips but they will be the same stepping/revision as the retail chips so it's a non issue.
Some complain at this because there's the possibility that they were cherry picked so the O/C results may be atypical.
But this is true even for the final spec code chips that Intel also hand out so the only way around this is to buy your own chip at retail.
The real issue with ES chips is when testing earlier revisions.
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Thanks for clarifying :)
 
smilingcrow said:
Many official reviews are done with ES chips but they will be the same stepping/revision as the retail chips so it's a non issue.
Some complain at this because there's the possibility that they were cherry picked so the O/C results may be atypical.
But this is true even for the final spec code chips that Intel also hand out so the only way around this is to buy your own chip at retail.
The real issue with ES chips is when testing earlier revisions.
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I know. I've had all sorts of ES chips over the years but not all are end products and motherboards can be especially bad. I could get them myself, but what's the point.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
haha cant believe some arent impressed. 7700k is the best all round gaming chip now you have a better all round gaming cpu with extra cores aswell close to 5ghz.thats ryzen stomped.
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Yes but as always you look at CPUs through a narrow lens. In isolation, yes, the CPU looks very impressive in terms of performance. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a all-round great chip; we'll have to see. We don't even have confirmed pricing yet! Also just because the performance is great doesn't mean the technology is necessarily impressive. It's still Skylake with an extra two cores, nothing has changed, and it could've been released years ago.

Even if it's as amazing as it is looks in terms of performance and came out at the extremely optimistic £320 price point, I'm still not sure I'd buy one. If you're primarily gaming with a very high end GPU (1080 or better) at 1080p with high refresh rates and/or want a lot of longevity then it's probably going to be the go-to choice. Not everyone is in that boat, like some on this forum seem to believe.
 
I dont expect the results to be that far out. They are inline with Gamers Nexus to a degree so we can make some assumptions, at least as far as GTAV goes. It will be the fastest gaming cpu available, I don't know if anyone can or has questioned that. How much faster though is yet to be seen.

In the Gamers Nexus review, which I do understand is different and doesn't show the 8700k, but it does show the 7700k stock and overclocked to 5.1ghz. The difference is negligible, but the Ryzen chips do respond quite well to an overclock in that particular game. These imo are fair assessments to make based on known reliable data, how well the 8700k scales with the extra cores if at all in GTAV is yet to be seen.
 
jigger said:
I know. I've had all sorts of ES chips over the years but not all are end products and motherboards can be especially bad.
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You need to be in the loop if buying an ES as a consumer which is not easy unless the final retail revision/stepping details are known at the time of your purchase.

jigger said:
I could get them myself, but what's the point.
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As a consumer to save money mainly. There are some very good deals on Xeons for example which are less attractive now that they aren't supported by the HEDT platform any longer.
But if you were planning on using a server board anyway especially a 2S board then the savings can be large.
You still need to check on compatibility with an ES and sometimes unless you have a retail stepping/revision you are out of luck or have a more limited range of boards to choose from.
 
smilingcrow said:
You need to be in the loop if buying an ES as a consumer which is not easy unless the final retail revision/stepping details are known at the time of your purchase.


As a consumer to save money mainly. There are some very good deals on Xeons for example which are less attractive now that they aren't supported by the HEDT platform any longer.
But if you were planning on using a server board anyway especially a 2S board then the savings can be large.
You still need to check on compatibility with an ES and sometimes unless you have a retail stepping/revision you are out of luck or have a more limited range of boards to choose from.
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Yeah I've had loads of them over the years. I'm in the loop so to speak.
 
jigger said:
Oddball ones?
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Has the NDA not expired yet! :D Go on, give us a clue.

I had a Core Duo that worked in an AOpen i975Xa-YDG board which was prior to Core 2 Duo being released for desktop.
That was an oddball and mounting a laptop chip in a desktop board socket was a bit scary after being so used to heat spreaders.
Had to RMA the board to the states unfortunately.
 
Old stuff... I had a K6-3 700Mhz and an 800Mhz base P4 that come with a adaptor for various sockets. Yeah I had the r&d core 2 on 479 and later the proper 775 core2. I think Intel give those to anyone that would take them in an attempt to get enthusiasts on side.

But anyway I'm sure we can wait to see retail Coffee Lake reviews. Something tells me this isn't a core2 moment.
 
All these leaks left and right on i7 8700k I better start looking into what motherboard I want. Really want Asus, but bloatware ai suite kind of ruins it a little bit. I have Gigabyte now and by the looks of things I might be staying with gigabyte. Maybe?

So when does the 8700k preorders begin?
 
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