Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

bru · 18 Oct 2017 at 07:40

Panos said:
Before "future generations and faster gpus" comes out (AMD Navi August, NV Pascal refresh Q2/3 2018 Volta if ever 2019), the Z370 & 8700K will be dead for quite some time, and replaced with Intel 8 core Z390 platform (April-May), and challenged by Zen+ (February).

I for one will be quite surprised if any of those dates turn out to be accurate.

Brazo · 18 Oct 2017 at 07:55

Panos said:
Before "future generations and faster gpus" comes out (AMD Navi August, NV Pascal refresh Q2/3 2018 Volta if ever 2019), the Z370 & 8700K will be dead for quite some time, and replaced with Intel 8 core Z390 platform (April-May), and challenged by Zen+ (February).

Where were those dates plucked from. No don't tell me

Even AMD desperate to distance themselves from Vega won't quite get navi out that soon!

jasonsony735 · 18 Oct 2017 at 09:46

Drollic said:
I would like to know if anything better than 3200 c14 is worthwhile as well. I'd imagine 3600 c16 is virtually identical in most scenarios just you pay more.

From looking at videos and other sources on the net going from 3000 up to 4000 in games will give you a max 10 FPS so much really worth going over 3200 really.

jasonsony735 · 18 Oct 2017 at 09:49

Trustdesa said:
It is me or the price just magically went from £359 to £379 here on Overclockers for the Core i7-8700K from a day to another?

Yes they have bumped the price up! They know there is high demand for this chip , They are making the most of it, No offence to them but they are losing customers and sales from doing this because the RRP for this CPU i7 8700k is £360! & that is from INTEL

jasonsony735 · 18 Oct 2017 at 09:53

ljt said:
Yup. It happens a lot on here, its very hard to plan a build on a set budget when the prices here literally change by the day. The 8600k has now shot up to £300

It's the same with their GPU range, you budget for something then half the parts change price (generally up) the next day.

I know O/C don't like people talking about prices and we won't mention prices on here but it does take the Mick a little adding more money on these CPU when we know they get them for around 50% less than what we pay for them and they have the cheek to add extra £20 on top...... someone needs to have a word with the marketing department.

Silent_Scone · 18 Oct 2017 at 10:04

Demand is high. If you're desperate to save a few quid, I'd wait till Q1. It's not likely going to get much better before then.

gavinh87 · 18 Oct 2017 at 10:27

Anyone here have experience with AVX offset on intel?
It seems that it cannot determine what is AVX and what isn't. My bios settings are 5.1 with an AVX offset of -1 (I know my cpu can do 5.0 with AVX)
Yet in non AVX applications/games it doesn't maintain the 5.1ghz and is constantly switching frequencies between 5/5.1.

So far its done it in BF1, non-AVX prime, aida with FPU unticked.
But in cinebench is holds steady at 5.1.

Is this because the avx detection is poor or is it a bios bug?

Confuzz · 18 Oct 2017 at 10:43

I just looked at another site and they have fourteen i7 8700k avalible but are selling them at £465 and they have pre orders on the i5 8600k for £327.50 with stock due in on the 27th of december. Im so glad i was lucky enough to get my i5 8600k on release day from ocuk for £269 as it could be a while before there is more supply than demand

abui1806 · 18 Oct 2017 at 11:05

jasonsony735 said:
Yes they have bumped the price up! They know there is high demand for this chip , They are making the most of it, No offence to them but they are losing customers and sales from doing this because the RRP for this CPU i7 8700k is £360! & that is from INTEL

Losing customers to?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 18 Oct 2017 at 11:12

Silent_Scone said:
Demand is high. If you're desperate to save a few quid, I'd wait till Q1. It's not likely going to get much better before then.

Supply is very low - IIRC,apparently in the first day or two OcUK probably sold between 100~150,yet to fulfill all the orders they had to pay beyond the odds to go and find another supplier.

Prozn · 18 Oct 2017 at 11:14

3200 CL14 and 3600 CL16 are pretty much identical in terms of performance.
4266 CL18 is the clear winner, but only if you can actually achieve 4266mhz.

This relies on you achieving the stated fequency. 3200 is a lot easier to achieve while overclocking then for example 4266. 4266 CL18 running at 4000mhz is slower than 3200 CL14.

3200 CL14 is for me the best combination of price vs performance vs ease of achieving the stated frequency.

S_D · 18 Oct 2017 at 11:15

Gibbo chimmed in a few days ago that his latest batch cost him £295 per chip. Add in VAT and at £360 they're only making around £5 per chip. Add in the cost of members free shipping and where's your profit gone?

Hagar · 18 Oct 2017 at 12:49

S_D said:
Gibbo chimmed in a few days ago that his latest batch cost him £295 per chip. Add in VAT and at £360 they're only making around £5 per chip. Add in the cost of members free shipping and where's your profit gone?

The new Z370 board and fast DDR4

TJM · 18 Oct 2017 at 14:54

Confuzz said:
i have this mb too the extreme4 seems to require a bit more voltage than other motherboards. i have 4.8 ghz on all cores stable with voltage 1.25 and cache ratio 4.4. . And I found that it was important to set avx ratio ofset to 2 disable speedstep and speed spectrum to keep temps down while testing in prime. i needed 1.38v to hit 4.9 which didnt seem worth the extra temps to me for such a small gain

Cheers for the settings. I'm now stable at 4.7GHz on all cores with 1.29v (an improvement over 1.38v at least). I would experiment further but the very small gains in gaming aren't worth the increased voltage and temps that I'd need to get any higher.

HaroldSaxon · 18 Oct 2017 at 15:46

Prozn said:
3200 CL14 and 3600 CL16 are pretty much identical in terms of performance.
4266 CL18 is the clear winner, but only if you can actually achieve 4266mhz.

This relies on you achieving the stated fequency. 3200 is a lot easier to achieve while overclocking then for example 4266. 4266 CL18 running at 4000mhz is slower than 3200 CL14.

3200 CL14 is for me the best combination of price vs performance vs ease of achieving the stated frequency.

Noob question here - What's the 1/4/8 stand for?

Hagar · 18 Oct 2017 at 15:52

BTVA · 18 Oct 2017 at 18:34

mine arrived this afternoon.

Smffy · 18 Oct 2017 at 18:42

BTVA said:
mine arrived this afternoon.

Had no idea HoF memory even existed, looks nice!

BTVA · 18 Oct 2017 at 18:44

Smffy said:
Had no idea HoF memory even existed, looks nice!

50 pairs exist.

thanks for the compliment! They look far more superb irl.

Danny75 · 18 Oct 2017 at 19:14

Awesome RAM.