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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

RavenXXX2 said:
I don't give a ****, Intel still aint competing with Zen on pricing, so yeah Intel can do one.
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Why would they? They've still got the marketing edge, and at least a years grace before they need to think about starting to be price competitive at the same core count. The prices will be adjusted once the general population start to catch wind about AMD's vastly superior price/performance ratio, and volume shipments of AMD desktops from Dell/HP take hold, they swing point will be with the APU's, something that gives Intel a huge positive edge presently, even if enthusiasts don't use it.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
  • INTEL BOXED 8TH GEN INTEL I7-8700K PROCESSOR [BX80684I78700K]: $484.44 CAN = £296 + VAT
  • INTEL BOXED 8TH GEN INTEL I7-8700 PROCESSOR [BX80684I78700]: $407.73 CAN = £249 + VAT
  • INTEL BOXED 8TH GEN INTEL I5-8600K PROCESSOR [BX80684I58600K]: $338.00 CAN = £206 + VAT
  • INTEL BOXED 8TH GEN INTEL I5-8400 PROCESSOR [BX80684I58400]: $237.58 CAN = £167 + VAT
  • INTEL BOXED 8TH GEN INTEL I3-8350K PROCESSOR [BX80684I38350K]: $233.41 CAN = £143 + VAT
  • INTEL BOXED 8TH GEN INTEL I3-8100 PROCESSOR [BX80684I38100]: $152.51 CAN = £93 + VAT
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The pricing on guru3d is on Canadian dollars. Look at the bottom of the article.
The exchange rate is $1 USD for $1.28 CAN or £1 for $1.64 CAN.
 
Journey said:
unless you have to have every last frame, and don't mind wasting money on the CPU + board combo, then the £150 will be a crap ton better invested in the GPU/Graphics card every day of the week.
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Firstly I am running a 144Hz monitor so every frame does kind of count.

Also with a bit of cost saving on the RAM and MB I can get the difference down to about £60. Oddly enough I was advised to save £50 and get an i5 over an i7 back in 2012 as there was little to no difference between them in games. Had I ignored that advice I would not be in my current predicament.

Panos said:
Is bit more complicated, assuming at first you aren't GPU bound at 2560x1440+, which means you have overclocked 1080Ti or TXp. In addition all the MMORPGs I play (eg TESO, SWTOR) ain't going to have their engines re-written, nor the Total War games. Even TW Warhammer an AMD supported game, runs on a single thread all time (last one). You need a much power as possible on that single thread.
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My concern is that even at 1440p when upgrading to a new GPU in 12 - 18 months time I will start hitting the same issues of a CPU bottleneck that i'm getting with the i5 now. Also with the 1700 I'm not sure if it will be like the 8150 vs 2500k, waiting on architecture specific optimisations that never come.
 
Fire_fly said:
Firstly I am running a 144Hz monitor so every frame does kind of count.

Also with a bit of cost saving on the RAM and MB I can get the difference down to about £60. Oddly enough I was advised to save £50 and get an i5 over an i7 back in 2012 as there was little to no difference between them in games. Had I ignored that advice I would not be in my current predicament.
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So what resolution are you running, and what is your current GPU?
 
Fire_fly said:
My concern is that even at 1440p when upgrading to a new GPU in 12 - 18 months time I will start hitting the same issues of a CPU bottleneck that i'm getting with the i5 now. Also with the 1700 I'm not sure if it will be like the 8150 vs 2500k, waiting on architecture specific optimisations that never come.
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Is not the same 4 core CPU with 6 core/12t CPU. If you feel you going to have bottlenecks, then buy a Ryzen 1700

The 6800K @ 4Ghz using atm isn't bottleneck to anything. The 6700K @ 4.9Ghz on the other hand it was bottleneck.
 
CPU: base, turbo, max boost, max binned

7900X: 3.3, 4.3, 4.5, 4.9
7820X: 3.6, 4.3, 4.5, 4.9
7800X: 3.5, 4.0, 4.0, 5.0
7740X: 4.3, 4.5, 4.5, 5.4
7700K: 4.2, 4.4, 4.5, 5.2

With simple estimations, max binned ~= (base + turbo) / 2 + 1.04

8700K: 3.8, 4.3, 4.7, [5.1]
 
voidshatter said:
CPU: base, turbo, max boost, max binned

7900X: 3.3, 4.3, 4.5, 4.9
7820X: 3.6, 4.3, 4.5, 4.9
7800X: 3.5, 4.0, 4.0, 5.0
7740X: 4.3, 4.5, 4.5, 5.4
7700K: 4.2, 4.4, 4.5, 5.2

With simple estimations, max binned ~= (base + turbo) / 2 + 1.04

8700K: 3.8, 4.3, 4.7, [5.1]
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14nm++ > 14nm+
 
Fire_fly said:
1440p gsync and a 980Ti, But i'm planning to upgrade that to something like an 1180 / 1180Ti when Nvidia decide to release something.
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So your GPU is currently bottle-necking your performance, not your CPU.

A wise man would spend the money on a very fast graphics card, and then buy the CPU/Board/RAM combo next year after the next Nvidia release cycle is completed, that will net you a far great number of FPS. Should you then want to upgrade the graphics card, you will have lost very little in monetary terms, selling it on and then also benefit from the newest Intel/AMD technology, and in Intel's case, a socket/chipset that might last longer than 14 seconds.

Obviously, there's no need to take any notice of what I am saying, but £350 + £130, then another £130, only to see 3-5% gains would just seem like a waste to me (personally), not forgetting that your 980Ti still holds good value presently, fetching circa £300 on auction sites, where as by next year it'll become the equivalent of the GTX 1160 (or whatever) and be worth £120 at best.

Either way, I am sure you'll have fun with your upgrade. :)
 
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