AMD are suppose to have PCIE 4 parts early next year.
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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017
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AMD are suppose to have PCIE 4 parts early next year.
Seems like a backgrade. I'd stick with AM4.
Single core speed is higher and multi should be able to beat the 1700 when overclocked.
Im using a 165hz screen now, i need all the frames i can get!
I'm genuinely curious how many extra FPS you'll get, assume you are running 1080 Ti at 1080/1440p? Also what games are we talking about?
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Another 8700K benchmarks leaked:
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/28803237
8700K is faster than Ryzen 7 1800X in Fritz Chess and wPrime 2.10 but Ryzen 7 1800X is ahead of 8700K in Cinebench R11.5 & R15 multi-thread, 8700K are faster in single thread. Very interesting thing about Coffee Lake 8700K is faster than Skylake X 7800X in all benchmarks.
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/28803237
8700K is faster than Ryzen 7 1800X in Fritz Chess and wPrime 2.10 but Ryzen 7 1800X is ahead of 8700K in Cinebench R11.5 & R15 multi-thread, 8700K are faster in single thread. Very interesting thing about Coffee Lake 8700K is faster than Skylake X 7800X in all benchmarks.
150FPS gets iffy.
Soon to be 1080ti/ or whatever volta card is available when i come to upgrade @ 2560x1080 yeah.
BF1, warframe, destiny 2, wow, overwatch. Most common ones tbh I have noticed in older stuff and mmo's ryzen struggles compared to my old locked 4770.
Another 8700K benchmarks leaked:
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/28803237
8700K is faster than Ryzen 7 1800X in Fritz Chess and wPrime 2.10 but Ryzen 7 1800X is ahead of 8700K in Cinebench R11.5 & R15 multi-thread, 8700K are faster in single thread. Very interesting thing about Coffee Lake 8700K is faster than Skylake X 7800X in all benchmarks.
Yeah, was talking about this earlier with the discord group. Intel have killed their own 6core HEDT if these are true.
Come to my house and tried both have you?
It doesn't like games that only use 1 or 2 cores, it hiccups. It might be because I'm trying to push 165hz but it doesn't like MMO's.
Oh, it also hates forza horizon, I have to lock at 72 fps or it hiccups.
Another 8700K benchmarks leaked:
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/28803237
8700K is faster than Ryzen 7 1800X in Fritz Chess and wPrime 2.10 but Ryzen 7 1800X is ahead of 8700K in Cinebench R11.5 & R15 multi-thread, 8700K are faster in single thread. Very interesting thing about Coffee Lake 8700K is faster than Skylake X 7800X in all benchmarks.
That chart shows a 1700 not 1800X.
A 1700 runs at 3.2/3.75 with XFR whilst an 1800X runs at 3.7/4.1 with XFR.
That is about 15% faster for multithread and 10% for single thread. So just scale up the numbers in the chart to get 1800X.
If the 8700K comes out at $400, then AMD will likely have to officially cut the price of the 1800X to the same.
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I don't think it will. Sandy Bridge was the first chip of a major architecture change. This chip isn't.
Also 2500K successor is the 8600K.
2500K also lasted so long because pretty much until now all chips have been quad core (4C/4T) and so games were built with that in mind. 3570K, 4670K, 6600K, 7600K.
I believe we are entering a period (like GPUs did after being stuck on 12/16 shaders) core counts will start increasing rapidly.
OK, good to know. Such a confusing time for upgrades. Just gone down the Ryzen route, will be kicking myself if Intel bring out something with the price/performance that the 2500k had in a few months.
8700K will be far more expensive than the 2500K was. One is an i7 and the other is an i5.
I dont think its unreasonable to assume the i7 should overclock to at least its turbo speed of 4.7 on all cores. Things will look a little more even on the multicore side then.
Interesting times!
Another 8700K benchmarks leaked:
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/28803237
8700K is faster than Ryzen 7 1800X in Fritz Chess and wPrime 2.10 but Ryzen 7 1800X is ahead of 8700K in Cinebench R11.5 & R15 multi-thread, 8700K are faster in single thread. Very interesting thing about Coffee Lake 8700K is faster than Skylake X 7800X in all benchmarks.
Those don't make sense. I would be surprised if the 8700k was slower in single thread stuff compared with the 7700k if the single core boost is 4.7 as per the clocks listed in their table. That would mean IPC had actually gone quite a bit backwards
I can understand WoW struggling, and older games being naff especially heavily single threaded ones. What card you currently running? Volta will not be out for another 7 months or so, as Nvidia will be milking the Pascal cards for a bit long with no competition in the high end. Maybe better to get a faster card first?
Overclocked the 8700K likely beats a Ryzen R7 overclocked. But Intel would really have to have messed things up if they are behind for something coming nearly 3 quarters after Ryzen.
The problem Intel then have is what will Zen 2 do in 2018 H2. Supposedly 10-15% performance gain again (clocks+IPC). Might even overclock well on 7nm.
A faster card would make sense but the cold boot bug is annoying the **** out of me. That said there are some games where a faster card would make zero sense because it bottlenecks the GPU I have now.
My daughter also wants a computer so I'm thinking of giving her this 1700 and putting it in the tomahawk board and keeping this crosshair and see what zen2 brings.
Choices.