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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

What I want to know is core for core hz for hz comparison. The games I play like Iracing don`t use all cores effectively I heard something about scaling being an issue with more cores. In these gaming type instances, would they actually be worse for performance if hz being equal? each core slightly weaker and a worse bottleneck, but of course overal stronger for those games that of course can use 6 cores?

Look at destiny 2? If its scaling like that, We should see the 8700k hit the 200fps limit where is the 7700k is at 170fps. Prefect for those that want the full FPS out of there flagship nvidia gpu.
 
Don't think I'll bother with coffeelake tbh, likely too small an upgrade over a 5820k to be worth the hassle.. So I'll wait and see what Icelake is like now, hopefully a decent improvement of at least 10-15% but I'm not going to bet on it.

I would go HEDT again but Skylake-x doesn't seem to be all that, even a small backstep in some ways.
 
I want to upgrade to this, but when its £350 for the CPU, £150 for the board, and another £150 for ram.....

I'm hoping for ram to come down in price early next year around the same time as volta, and I'm going for a full system upgrade :D
 
Don't think I'll bother with coffeelake tbh, likely too small an upgrade over a 5820k to be worth the hassle.. So I'll wait and see what Icelake is like now, hopefully a decent improvement of at least 10-15% but I'm not going to bet on it.

I would go HEDT again but Skylake-x doesn't seem to be all that, even a small backstep in some ways.

SkylakeX requires 4000mhz+ ram to perform properly, and performance scales with ram on that one.
The gaming difference between 2133 and 4000 is 50% almost.
 
Don't think I'll bother with coffeelake tbh, likely too small an upgrade over a 5820k to be worth the hassle.. So I'll wait and see what Icelake is like now, hopefully a decent improvement of at least 10-15% but I'm not going to bet on it.

I would go HEDT again but Skylake-x doesn't seem to be all that, even a small backstep in some ways.

from x99 platform wont be worth the upgrade but will be faster than ryzen.ram could just get faster ram for x99 platform.
 
What I want to know is core for core hz for hz comparison. The games I play like Iracing don`t use all cores effectively I heard something about scaling being an issue with more cores. In these gaming type instances, would they actually be worse for performance if hz being equal? each core slightly weaker and a worse bottleneck, but of course overal stronger for those games that of course can use 6 cores?

this what we need reviewers to concentrate on instead of getting hard on's over core count all the time.

Also for what its worth I have always felt ram speed has had a bigger impact than most have realised.

I have already noticed my cheap £40 g4400 do certian tasks quicker than my haswell, even tho its a much weaker cpu it does use ddr4. On my main rig when ram utilisation is high things slow down due to the ram access been bottlenecked, and I have already seen in games that clocking up gddr5 makes more impact than clocking up core, so it would seem logical than normal ram yields similar improvements. My main motivation to upgrade my chipset right now is to get 3000+mhz ddr4 in my rig. But at these current ram prices its out of the question for me at the moment.
 
For one game or so but what about on average?
Proof? Would like to see some yt vid on this.

The test includes 7900X.
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/6v9v0n/to_test_just_how_much_memory_latency_affects/
(Unfortunately vodafone controller has issues with imgur atm, and cannot post directly here the images. )

However, even normal Skylake CPUs like the 6700K had nice scaling with RAM speeds. Kabylake not so much though, nor the previous generations.
https://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/page3.html

So as long as you aren't GPU limited, high ram speed worth. But at 4K res you need something like an overclocked TXp or SLI 1080Tis to show that difference.
 

There doesn't appear to be much by way of heatsinks on most of those Asrock boards. A lot of the Zen boards are the same - either no heatsink or an 'aesthetic' one with no proper surface area. I wish these companies would start producing plainer more functional boards. Spend the RGB and other wasted cash on proper heatsinks and better design and I'm in. :p
 
Intel have hiked prices so bad that the i7 is now in the old high end tier,

i5 is priced like the previous i7.

i3 is priced like i5..

Not fooling anyone with a brain Intel. There is no added value here..
 
Since the 2600K, the price to the 7700K has gone up from $317 to $350, it's probably keeping up with inflation, or slightly lower. As for the i5 the 2500K was $216, with the 7600K being $243, so a bigger % jump than the i7. As for the i3, yes that has gone up a lot all the way from $117 for the i3 2100, to the earth shattering $117 for the i3 7100 :o
 
Intel have hiked prices so bad that the i7 is now in the old high end tier,

i5 is priced like the previous i7.

i3 is priced like i5..

Not fooling anyone with a brain Intel. There is no added value here..

Really?

I paid 250gbp for my 4770k. Allowing for gbp slippage post brexit and inflation, I don't think 315gbp for a 7700k is too bad (ignoring the "it's only 4 core and you can get an 8 core Ryzen for less" argument for as minute).
 
Yeah I'd say prices were only keeping up with general inflation as well.

Having said that it's not like we have had ground breaking performance improvements either over that time!
 
Sitting on a 5930k @ 4.5 what feel's like since I started puberty, it's a 6 core which feels like old hat now a days, the 8700k will be a 6 core, will this be enough for gaming for the next 3/4 years like my 5930k has?
 
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