Those "games" you refer to have been going on since time immemorial, men have expectations upon them that women instinctively place, and they respond unconsciously to many triggers based on what their ideas of male and female roles are.
If you think that it a winning formula to go for an expensive meal that you essentially cannot afford, and have the woman pay 75% of the bill, without some adverse affect to your pride and image, then good for you. Personally, I like to maintain as healthy an amount of self-respect as possible.
Times, they are changing.
Serious point, it's an old fashion view. The male and females roles have been destroyed where woman now commonly go out to work and will often earn more than their male counterparts at least until marriage and children.
Most of the happiest couples I know got together in a very chilled out way where things such as this were likely not overly considered. Everyone else seems to break up over such stupid issues.
I think the winning formula is finding someone you enjoy spending time with. I'd be slightly worried if my date was only interested in spending time with me when it required me to put down a wad of cash, regardless of whether or not I could afford it.
Personally, I support taking turns. However rather than splitting dates 50/50, I just expect the female to treat me sometimes. If she wants to use her turn to go to a fancy restaurant that she's paying, I won't argue for. If I'm short on cash, the next date might be a picnic or me cooking dinner.
The important thing is you both have a good time because the company is good and worrying over the details is only going to ruin an otherwise good thing. Most decent woman won't care how big your wallet is anyway, just that you have one.
That's just what I think works for me though, you decide what works for you.
Sounds a bit insecure if you have issues with a girl paying more than you richdog, no doubt you'll argue this but I/most people wouldn't have an issue. However I wouldn't make going somewhere I can't afford a regular thing.
They (roles of men and women) have not been "destroyed", not at all (unless women are suddenly spouting penises and men are bearing kids), they have just changed to be more balanced in certain aspects. I am far from a 'traditionalist' when it comes to men and women and relaitonships... I like strong, intelligent and financially independant women, women that challenge me. However, I do understand some fundamental truths about the natural roles of men and women as dictated by evolution, and that instinctive behaviour has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years, and to think that it is somehow magically radically changing just because society is now progressing with regards to womens positions in society is simply not true. Some fundamental aspects of human behaviour don't change, and likely won't for a long, long time. I see it every day in the office, when im out partying, and when im out dating.
I appreciate your optimistic view on life and how certain things (should) have no relevance, but it's a tad simplistic and naieve imo.
So you're the guy that is paying.
It doesn't look worth it at all. Perfectly functional on free membership.
More curiousity than anything. Metrics FTW!
I'll leave you with two final points.
#1 - You stated that 99.9% of the woman you meet feel the same as you. I would counter that it's entirly probably that some of these woman were simply soundboarding your own opinions back at you, because it's a tactic they commonly use when interested. Woman are generally interested in strong men, no doubt about that, but I believe your insecurities on this issue are a weakness that'd turn off more woman than actually having less money than them would.
Tell yourself what you like, but don't waste your time feeling sorry for me, just prepare yourself for a bit of a reality check in a few years when you get a bit older and more experienced.#2 - Allowing a woman to pay for a date, whether or not said date would have been within your means, doesn't curtail your financial independence. If you're not paying your own rent, bills and groceries, a number of woman will be turned off, no doubt about that, but that probably has less to do with how much money you make and is more a judgement on personal responsibility.You can disagree, but I feel slightly sorry for you and I'm glad I'm naive. .
Richdog I take it you are a rich person? Judging by your nick!
Makes a whole lot of difference when you have money just to burn.
Tell yourself what you like, but don't waste your time feeling sorry for me, just prepare yourself for a bit of a reality check in a few years when you get a bit older and more experienced.
Maybe, or maybe I'm young enough the woman in my age range are just better people. Unfortunate for you, old man.
What silly comments... Good luck either way.
No, you're just a little immature. As I said though, good luck!
Ah yes, judging a persons maturity via the Internet, how very mature of you. Right up there with saying "I'm very mature for my age". *thumbsup*