Richdog does seem to make some interesting (not saying he is right or wrong) points. His world seems different to mine,but look where his location is. Richdog have you ever gone out with woman who are in rubbish jobs do they seem a bit more down to earth sorts. Ive never been out with a girl who has had a good job, so they seem to respect money more i guess. And money has never been an occasion where its a problem.