iOS6 Changing how you see the world

now use rrp price, not reduced values.

its not irrelevant at all, its showing your biasedness.
yeah if that was the case, why does anyone own the 32gb version?

shall I just giove it to you.

500, 570.

wow what a rip off. £70 for 16gb.
 
now use rrp price, not reduced values.

They are sold by Samsung on the Amazon site. Why would you pay RRP if you did not have to.

I will be happy to compare Apples storage upgrade prices through 3rd parties, even though my examples are not.
 
now use rrp price, not reduced values.

its not irrelevant at all, its showing your biasedness.
yeah if that was the case, why does anyone own the 32gb version?

shall I just giove it to you.

500, 570.

wow what a rip off. £70 for 16gb.

Just because you can't get an iPhone for less than RRP...
 
They sold by Samsung on the Amazon site. Why would you pay RRP if you did not have to.

I will be happy to compare Apples storage upgrade prices through 3rd parties, even though my examples are not.

in that case lets take resale into value.

lets compare rrp, the intended value at launch, not what you can buy it for near the end of its top spot life.

Just because you can't get an iPhone for less than RRP...


nom because intended value is the only way to compare. comparing it to the reduced end of life price is not the same.
and actually I got a brand new one for less than rrp.
 
in that case lets take resale into value.

lets compare rrp, the intended value at launch, not what you can buy it for near the end of its top spot life.

Is that straws I hear you clutching. The iPhone may have better resale but even that is using historic data to infer future performance.

It is also a million miles away from my original point. A £600 product with a huge markup which has a terrible core application, in this case maps. Then I laughed at the storage upgrade prices, which as I have proven are stupid and so now we are moving on to TCO calculations, shall we include the cost of special tariffs you sometimes need or the £20 or whatever it is for the adapter for the 30pin to lightning for all the accessories people may have.
 
Is that straws I hear you clutching. The iPhone may have better resale but even that is using historic data to infer future performance.

It is also a million miles away from my original point. A £600 product with a huge markup which has a terrible core application, in this case maps. Then I laughed at the storage upgrade prices, which as I have proven are stupid and so now we are moving on to TCO calculations, shall we include the cost of special tariffs you sometimes need or the £20 or whatever it is for the adapter for the 30pin to lightning for all the accessories.

:rolleyes:
oh look still blinded by hatred.

how is it any different to any other phone.
the worth of components is always well well below final price.
you have shipping, assembly, packaging, more shipping, overheads, wages, taxes, profit and you get to final price.
apple is nothing special.
wow ok you go out by the parts and assemble it yourself. oh and good luck getting the parts to your house for free.

so how are you right? you arnet you are wrong, the price of any phones parts is always a a metre slice of final price.

then to go and say memory is a rip off. and proved wrong on that as well.

does Google maps have turn by turn navigation? no
yes there's a few issues with the maps itself, but the vast majority of the issue is with satellite images that aren't that important.

Google forced there hands, yes its poor show. but its hardly surprising seeing as they had to pay for an which google refused to update.
 
Is it me, or does when a rebuttal come up, the goal posts get changed?

Either way, we're on about Apple Maps, and how epically accurate they are.
 
But becuase you have such stupid opinions.

do you actually know anything or just live in dream land.

:rolleyes:
oh look still blinded by hatred.

Well I think it's clear who is more blinded by something, never once in this conversation have I resorted to insults to you or roll eyes. When you are willing to discuss it properly and proof read your posts then I will play nice and join in. :)
 
ahh there we go no response. not got any way to dig yourself out?

name calling? I haven't named you, I said you had a stupid opinion. You do, you held up the parts price which doesn't include so much of the costs and sad look at apple. yeah all phone companies do that.
 
Have to admit trying to read glaucus's posts is awful, either:

- messed up keyboard
- typing from his phone
- doesn't proof read
- in rage mode with someone on the internet so smashes the keys as quickly as possible to reply back :D :p
 
:rolleyes:
oh look still blinded by hatred.

Do I even have to respond to this twaddle?

how is it any different to any other phone.
the worth of components is always well well below final price.
you have shipping, assembly, packaging, more shipping, overheads, wages, taxes, profit and you get to final price.
apple is nothing special.
wow ok you go out by the parts and assemble it yourself. oh and good luck getting the parts to your house for free.
so how are you right? you arnet you are wrong, the price of any phones parts is always a a metre slice of final price.

Well it is given a premium price due to it apparently being a superior product, as we can see this is not a superior mapping product. I never once said that other phones did not have a massive markup, I asked you to look for the S3 teardown cost but yet nothing has come back.

I would also like to see proof of any other phone OEM having a mark up as large as Apple on its top tier product, I wont hold my breath for a response on this.

I laughed at the cost of storage upgrade, a point which still stands when other phone makers will let you add sd storage to the phone. I then showed that a s3 upgrade was half the price of the apple one, was I wrong here as well?

does Google maps have turn by turn navigation? no
yes there's a few issues with the maps itself, but the vast majority of the issue is with satellite images that aren't that important.

Google forced there hands, yes its poor show. but its hardly surprising seeing as they had to pay for an which google refused to update.

On IOS no, not sure who is to blame for that one. Maybe Google wouldn't do it, maybe Apple wont pay. So the town names being wrong and lack of POI or POI being in the wrong place, no transit direction, no street view are down to sat images, ok then.
 
if you want your pretty sateliete images (why?) then use the google maps site


love the fanboys jumping on this. probably because its the first app to actually be done worse on IOS... ever...
 
why do you need it, its common sense, but to blow your argument out of the water. lets look at the Samsung tab, compared to ipad.

oh look whos got a higher markup.

http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-...ung-tablet-could-have-higher-margin-than-iPad
SAN FRANCISCO—Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd.'s Galaxy Note 10.1 media tablet could deliver higher profit margins than Apple Inc.'s market-leading iPad—if Samsung can maintain its target selling prices—according to a preliminary teardown analysis of the tablet conducted by IHS iSuppli.


so due to slightly screwy app, its no longer a good product?
one thing does not make a good product.

apple have said they have repeatedly tried to update google maps and where blocked.

Google maps does have turn by turn navigation, used it this week on a North Wales trip. This was on my Evo 3D.

not on ios.
 
then to go and say memory is a rip off. and proved wrong on that as well.

.

Only picking this out because it's funny, and I don't have time to reply to the rest.

But seriously, to get 64GB of storage on apple it's an extra £170 (£3.54 per extra GB), on the S3 it's £45 (£0.70 per extra GB). How is that not a rip off?!

The additional memory on the iphone is over FIVE times more expensive per GB than it is on the S3. Surely you can't deny that now?
 
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