*** iPhone 5 - Revealed! ***

Just a heads up for anyone who thinks theyve ordered their nano sim from O2. You actually haven't. The page being linked is the Micro-sim page. Its really confusing, o2 support have tried to be helpful but basically have rushed it. So you'll still need to order a Nano sim. But the page isn't up yet. O2 support is letting me know when this is up.
 
Kevin Clark said:
Thing is I think smart phones have pretty much got everything now. There isn't much to get excited about any more.

They all look pretty much the same, they all do pretty much the same thing and cost the same amount.

It's a phone and it's a small computer and it's a camera. There isn't a lot else you can do with it except make it thinner, lighter, faster, have more battery life and every 12 months make the corners a bit more or less rounded, make the case out of something different, make one bit shiny that was matt or vice versa.
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Yes, I do see what your saying.

Some (non apple) designer made a video of the cool things the iphone 5 (and iOS 6) could have. All cool upgrades (non of which apple have used). Even if they 'borrowed' some ideas from Android it may be cool.

They could have also upgraded the camera and the battery life. The numbers vary slightly when comparing the 4s but in real terms it will have exactly the same battery life.

Omitting NFC seems silly as well.

Maybe you're right though and we're not going to see any innovation for years.

*Edit. Will the 4s be getting passbook as well? IMO this is the coolest update this year.
 
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I reckon the technology is there for something innovative but it's not viable yet.

Tactile feedback from a touchscreen is going to be pretty special in my opinion.
 
ShortWarning said:
Yes, I do see what your saying.

Some (non apple) designer made a video of the cool things the iphone 5 (and iOS 6) could have. All cool upgrades (non of which apple have used). Even if they 'borrowed' some ideas from Android it may be cool.

They could have also upgraded the camera and the battery life. The numbers vary slightly when comparing the 4s but in real terms it will have exactly the same battery life.

Omitting NFC seems silly as well.

Maybe you're right though and we're not going to see any innovation for years.

*Edit. Will the 4s be getting passbook as well? IMO this is the coolest update this year.
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Everything keynoted is working on iPhone 4S. I am running GM on 4S including maps, pano & passbook
 
i've had the same rolling sim from o2 for years now which i don't want to change because it's got unlimited 3g allowance. If i change it to one of these nano sim jobbies, do you think they'll still give me the unlimited 3g?
 
dansew123 said:
For anyone wondering, 02 have just told me that a Nano-SIM will come included with the iPhone 5, so there is no need to order one.
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ntemples1 said:
What even when you buy it direct from apple?
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That's what I was told. They seem to be saying the same on their twitter feed also.

The apple website says.
Where can I get a micro-SIM or nano-SIM card?
If you choose Pay as you go when you buy a new iPhone from the Apple Online Store, it will arrive with a micro-SIM or nano-SIM pre-loaded with call minutes, texts and data. (Pay as you go SIM cards may not be available for all iPhone models.) Or you can get a micro-SIM or nano-SIM card from any carrier offering iPhone plans.
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Maybe you can do a sim-swap with the included sim, I'm not actually sure
 
v0n said:
Those adaptors look useless as well. If have your car wired for iphone with cradle or an iphone shape dock moulded into hifi, there is no way on earth you can possibly fit an inch tall adapter inbetween old socket and the phone. Crazy. Just crazy. Killed the product for millions of people.
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It was time the connector changed, that is undeniable.

Mini-USB is a joke, friends with phones that use that connector regularly have connection issues, so the EU directive on that front can sod off.

So really, Apple had to make there own and I'm happy with that.

The adapter however, seems peculiar and very un-Apple. Given the new adapter is "all-digital" and the old 30-pin sent out analog signals, I recon there is a DAC in the adapter, which would account for the size and perhaps (some) of the cost.

Other things such as NFC are in their infancy and personally I couldn't care less. Until every place has NFC I still need to carry my card and therefore my wallet around with me, so whats the point if I still need to get something out of my pocket? NFC also has some security issues IMO.

Wireless charging is slow and inefficient, plus are you really going to buy 3/4 pads at expense? (Not that the new cable is cheap!)

Personally, I haven't had a new toy in a while and I'm getting annoyed with my iP4 speed now, and the 4S has worse battery life, so a new 5 for me it is.



G4cE said:
I don't think thats true unfortunately, I believe they will be using an 800mhz frequency, that will not be compatible with the iphone 5. If you want LTE, you must be an EE customer I believe.
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During the presentation Apple showed O2 on the slide for the UK & Europe? :confused:

Ofcom say 800Mhz and 2.6Ghz for 4G, which the latter O2 is using in London at the moment.
 
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Interesting to hear that the phone will come with a nano SIM when bought directly from Apple. That should save me the hassle of trying to get one delivered before next Friday.

I was on giffgaff but they've just announced the won't be releasing nano SIMs for several months. This way I'll move to another network for a few months and the switch back when they finally get the correct SIMs in stock.
 
Concorde Rules said:
During the presentation Apple showed O2 on the slide for the UK & Europe? :confused:

Ofcom say 800Mhz and 2.6Ghz for 4G, which the latter O2 is using in London at the moment.
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That was for uprated DC-HSDPA I believe, not LTE.

Goto here: www.apple.com/iphone/LTE

The iPhone 5 requires 850Mhz or 1800Mhz, 1800 is being offered by EE in the UK, the other UK providers are being assigned either 800Mhz and/or 2.6Ghz.

The iPhone 5 will not work on O2's (800Mhz) LTE as it stands right now.
 
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