iPhone/iPod Touch Firmware 2.2 is up

I can't really get Street View to work. Tried going to Brooklyn in NY where i would assume Street View has covered, but the icon doesn't show up. Tried Drop Pin too.
 
My manager at work was down in london a few weeks back, and he said he seen a van going around with a pole and a panaramic camera on top, and the van had google ads on the side.

So hopefully the UK side of it should come soon...
 
Mull3t said:
My manager at work was down in london a few weeks back, and he said he seen a van going around with a pole and a panaramic camera on top, and the van had google ads on the side.

So hopefully the UK side of it should come soon...
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I saw the van at home too. Should be up soon.
 
Nymins said:
Holy crap. iPod touch owners dont get the Google Maps update. Was wondering why i couldn't see the new layout. Well done Apple.

http://gizmodo.com/5095448/ipod-touch-denied-street-view-other-google-maps-upgrades-in-firmware-22
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Don't wanna sound like a troll but you're not entitled to anything beyond what you got when you bought the device, neither are iPhone users technically. Bugfixes are one thing, new features for free? Can't really moan if you don't get them.
 
Durzel said:
Don't wanna sound like a troll but you're not entitled to anything beyond what you got when you bought the device, neither are iPhone users technically. Bugfixes are one thing, new features for free? Can't really moan if you don't get them.
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I should be entitled to moan because iPhone users got it and both devices are equal on a technical level. iPod users dont get everything free btw, before the 2nd generation iPod Touch, we needed to pay for the update that included Maps etc

EDIT: And tbh the statement "you're not entitled to anything beyond what you got when you bought the device" doesn't make any sense. Every device you buy your are entitled to improvements made upon that device. Firmware? Drivers? These are made to improve the users device and are entitled to them. Whats the point in making a device that has a lot of bugs and telling the buyer, "Sorry, you bought it the way it was, we aren't gonna bother fixing it for you".
 
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Like I said - bugfixes are one thing, new features/improvements are entirely different. You're entitled to the former under "fitness for purpose" rules, but the latter - that's just a bonus, you're not entitled to receive whole new features for gratis in perpetuity.

If you buy a car and subsequently the manufacturer develops some new ABS technology that it fits to later cars/other models are you entitled to have it retrofitted to your car for free, even if it was trivial to do so? Was this "new ABS technology" part of the decision making process when you bought the car in the first place? No, it couldn't have been because it didn't exist.

You decided to buy a device (in this case iPod, iPhone or whatever) based on what features were available/listed as specifications at the point in time that you decided to buy it - you can't buy something and then hold the manufacturer to task over a list of unspecified number of future new features that were never explicitly offered to you in the first place.

Whilst you may be right that the iPod Touch and iPhone are similar enough that Apple could decide to provide the same features on both there are numerous reasons why they could - legitimately - decide not to. This isn't that unusual to be honest - Cisco networking equipment for example is usually identically specced with the extra features, etc being unlocked through software licences. Using your logic you think you're automatically entitled to every single "premium" feature that Apple decides to make available on the iPhone even though you bought the lowest-cost option available. It doesn't work like that I'm afraid.
 
Durzel said:
Like I said - bugfixes are one thing, new features/improvements are entirely different. You're entitled to the former under "fitness for purpose" rules, but the latter - that's just a bonus, you're not entitled to receive whole new features for gratis in perpetuity.

If you buy a car and subsequently the manufacturer develops some new ABS technology that it fits to later cars/other models are you entitled to have it retrofitted to your car for free, even if it was trivial to do so? Was this "new ABS technology" part of the decision making process when you bought the car in the first place? No, it couldn't have been because it didn't exist.

You decided to buy a device (in this case iPod, iPhone or whatever) based on what features were available/listed as specifications at the point in time that you decided to buy it - you can't buy something and then hold the manufacturer to task over a list of unspecified number of future new features that were never explicitly offered to you in the first place.

Whilst you may be right that the iPod Touch and iPhone are similar enough that Apple could decide to provide the same features on both there are numerous reasons why they could - legitimately - decide not to. This isn't that unusual to be honest - Cisco networking equipment for example is usually identically specced with the extra features, etc being unlocked through software licences. Using your logic you think you're automatically entitled to every single "premium" feature that Apple decides to make available on the iPhone even though you bought the lowest-cost option available. It doesn't work like that I'm afraid.
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Going a bit over the top there mate I think. It's Google Street Views, it's not that advanced and I agree that it is a bit spawny not to include it for the iPod Touch. The iPod Touch is the flagship iPod model, thought they would put more effort into it really.

In reference to the car with ABS, that is not a good analogy, to have ABS replaced it would have to be done by that company taking labour and time. An iPod upgrade would take Apple a day at max to create a new firmware and seed it to the iTunes servers.
 
Durzel said:
Like I said - bugfixes are one thing, new features/improvements are entirely different. You're entitled to the former under "fitness for purpose" rules, but the latter - that's just a bonus, you're not entitled to receive whole new features for gratis in perpetuity.

If you buy a car and subsequently the manufacturer develops some new ABS technology that it fits to later cars/other models are you entitled to have it retrofitted to your car for free, even if it was trivial to do so? Was this "new ABS technology" part of the decision making process when you bought the car in the first place? No, it couldn't have been because it didn't exist.

You decided to buy a device (in this case iPod, iPhone or whatever) based on what features were available/listed as specifications at the point in time that you decided to buy it - you can't buy something and then hold the manufacturer to task over a list of unspecified number of future new features that were never explicitly offered to you in the first place.

Whilst you may be right that the iPod Touch and iPhone are similar enough that Apple could decide to provide the same features on both there are numerous reasons why they could - legitimately - decide not to. This isn't that unusual to be honest - Cisco networking equipment for example is usually identically specced with the extra features, etc being unlocked through software licences. Using your logic you think you're automatically entitled to every single "premium" feature that Apple decides to make available on the iPhone even though you bought the lowest-cost option available. It doesn't work like that I'm afraid.
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The only thing is Apple have released every single update to both the iPod and iPhone. Why stop now? What possible issue do they have of not releasing the Street View on the iPod touch?

It will definitely come to the Touch eventually, its just totally daft that they didn't release it today. I can't see any legal issues with releasing it on both devices.

As for the features, its not fair to compare it to your car theory. Apple have said that they will continue to update their devices for as long as they can until a new version is released. Look at the iPhone 2G, its been updated with Street View but its older tech than both the iPhone 3G and the iPod Touch 2G.
 
Nymins said:
The only thing is Apple have released every single update to both the iPod and iPhone. Why stop now? What possible issue do they have of not releasing the Street View on the iPod touch?

It will definitely come to the Touch eventually, its just totally daft that they didn't release it today. I can't see any legal issues with releasing it on both devices.

As for the features, its not fair to compare it to your car theory. Apple have said that they will continue to update their devices for as long as they can until a new version is released. Look at the iPhone 2G, its been updated with Street View but its older tech than both the iPhone 3G and the iPod Touch 2G.
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Last point is spot on. Apple will release it but will charge for the update. That's what they normally do.
 
Maybe its me but I think my 3G Signal has got better!

Before the last update I could hardly get any 3G in my area...Then with that update I started to get a one maybe two bars in certain places in my house now I am getting 3 bars. Though maybe its just luck I haven't really followed it.

Also I heard last week O2 are upgrading their nearby mask to make it full 3G and its just across the road from me :D So I can't wait till they get that going my Signal should be perfect :D
 
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