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3 times today ive entered the star mazda series race at spa and 3 times ive quit due to been wrote off by some muppet...

not good...

When that happened to me I would just start from the pits. Let the grid timer go to zero and it will then say 'missed start' in green. Click it and you will start the race from the back in the pits. Means you often miss the muppets crashing on the first lap leaving you to climb the field safely.
 
When that happened to me I would just start from the pits. Let the grid timer go to zero and it will then say 'missed start' in green. Click it and you will start the race from the back in the pits. Means you often miss the muppets crashing on the first lap leaving you to climb the field safely.

hmmmm not a bad plan..

2 times it was after first corner on the long straight, was peeps getting in and out of slipstreams and getting it wrong then going into me and 1 lost it on the 2nd corner that you take flat out...

so my ratings aint too good now...
 
hmmmm not a bad plan..

2 times it was after first corner on the long straight, was peeps getting in and out of slipstreams and getting it wrong then going into me and 1 lost it on the 2nd corner that you take flat out...

so my ratings aint too good now...

Thats one of the annoying things with the safety rating, that you get penalised for someone elses mistakes. I know it would be hard to impliment it any other way but its still muck.
 
I would be interested in them purely for ease of setting up as in just the Power and USB from the G25 and the bodnars under the desk for the pedals and shifter.

Any other advantages getting one for the shifter?

I use Bodnar boxes for pedals and shifter, my shifter was screwing up, but the calibration app that comes with the Bodnar boxes fixes it. They saved me a fortune, I use a GT3 RS but still use the G25 pedals and shifter.
 
Thats one of the annoying things with the safety rating, that you get penalised for someone elses mistakes. I know it would be hard to impliment it any other way but its still muck.

yeah i agree im not saying i dont make mistakes because i do lots in fact, but i always try to keep out of peoples way and im always aware of the cars around me and i try stay out of there way...

really enjoying the radical tonight blasting round spa. only been practicing tho cba with racing anymore today after all the muppets...
 
really enjoying the radical tonight blasting round spa. only been practicing tho cba with racing anymore today after all the muppets...
As many iRacers know I'm not a huge fan of the entire system, I just love the content and the way it feels on the track. The service itself suffers from being too restrictive to be fun and not tough enough to encourage consistently good driving... mainly because they probably realise most of us just can't be encouraged to be consistently good drivers no matter what the penalty. :-) If we all had the skill to be good racing drivers it would be just as puzzling as if we all had the ability to be professional footballers or chess grandmasters.

Having said that iRacing requires you to take responsibility for your own incidents, and getting into the "what could I have done different?" mindset is absolutely crucial if you're to enjoy more than a passing fling with iRacing. I can't stress that strongly enough, and three out of three DNFs in the S.Mazda implies that there's probably something you could have done to alter that. Fast track is good in some ways but it doesn't give you time to develop your avoidance and anticipation skills, both of which are vital in faster cars.

Having said that I gave up on the SM a long time ago because I found too many T1 incidents... probably because I'm a cautious driver who likes a generous brake zone, and that makes it difficult for more aggressive drivers to predict my actions.

Of course the problem with all online racing made up of random drivers is that nobody knows anyone else's style. Some people realise this means taking things carefully for a few laps while you learn about the people around you. But many just go for every spot they can grab as soon as they can grab it. "It's racing not driving!" is their battle cry. Often just before they go off, taking some poor sod with them. :-)

Anyway, starting from the pits is a valid option, especially in longer races like the SM. But it's kind of avoiding the problem rather than learning to deal with it. You might also find that you just haven't given yourself long enough in the other cars yet to build up the kind of "sixth sense" which helps you spot danger before it happens. You never learn to anticipate everything, but you certainly learn how to telegraph your own intentions so that others can predict what you're likely to do. And that's what matters most into T1.

I always think the real race starts on about lap three. Until then you only have one job... survive, even if that means letting half the field past. Though I must admit that letting people past hurts a little even for me, and there's hardly a competitive bone in my body. :-)
 
I was gonna post something about being away/accident avoidance, but it wouldn't be anywhere near as detailed as that ^^^ :p

Whilst SR does 'punish' you for others mistakes, ultimately if it was purely just other peoples then long term it evens out to be a nothing.

Even when an incident isn't your fault it's worth looking at it and thinking about whether you could've done anything differently, sometimes you'll see people come flying up under braking, now if you turn in there's gonna be an accident, and it won't be 'your fault' but it's clear that there's something you can do about it. Likewise if someone's ahead you can gauge their driving and 9 times out of 10 'know' when they're going to have an incident giving you the time to potentially deal with it one way or another.

Oddly Ovals help in a lot of respects with that aspect of racing, simply as you're almost always surrounded by cars, and being rednecks their all stupidly aggressive :p
 
Sat through another race on Saturday - finally a win, someone didn't spin me out! (or should I say, I didn't spin myself out) lol...

And got a rating of +0.17 - so can't have been that bad.

I was regularly lapping flat 1:03:00s without risking too many SR balls-ups. Can pull off the odd quick lap, but find I usually make mistakes or at least nerf my SR to do that :(

The physics are really winding me up sometimes... either that or it's me/my interface... I watched the youtube tutorial & he's driving exactly how I'm trying to drive yet he seems to get a much better turn-in somehow.

My car seems to behave as if I'm locking up the front wheels on entry to nearly every corner... even when I'm not and/or have ABS on.

It makes me want to throw something at the TV once in a while shouting "the car shouldn't DO THAT!"... incredibly frustrating.

I really want to progress to get involved in some of the better racing... but it just makes me angry when I try :(
 
They folk crashing in the first corners alway seem to hit me :L

Stressful but hey ho, I drive better when I'm
Alone and not trying to chase someone anyway

One thing about the mx5 that's annoying is as soon as the back end comes out, I counter steer and even with or without throttle it just spins out, really bad physics on that but the rest is really good
 
dont know if you guys watch formula 3 races on tv but exactly the same thing happens in real life its why I don't get too angry when people shunt me off. In saying that people are very aggressive in the SM races, you get a lot of hot headed spanish and italians and factor in small amounts of lag and people not having that spacial awareness things do happen.

The IR system does suck but so did people driving backwards in GTR evo online which you don't thankfully see on Iracing.
 
I don't agree sorry, maybe if you drive slower than the pace of the race then yeah, but if you are trying to compete with the rest of the field then there's just nothing that can be done if some one looses it right in front of you...
 
Sat through another race on Saturday - finally a win, someone didn't spin me out! (or should I say, I didn't spin myself out) lol...

And got a rating of +0.17 - so can't have been that bad.

I was regularly lapping flat 1:03:00s without risking too many SR balls-ups. Can pull off the odd quick lap, but find I usually make mistakes or at least nerf my SR to do that :(

The physics are really winding me up sometimes... either that or it's me/my interface... I watched the youtube tutorial & he's driving exactly how I'm trying to drive yet he seems to get a much better turn-in somehow.

My car seems to behave as if I'm locking up the front wheels on entry to nearly every corner... even when I'm not and/or have ABS on.

It makes me want to throw something at the TV once in a while shouting "the car shouldn't DO THAT!"... incredibly frustrating.

I really want to progress to get involved in some of the better racing... but it just makes me angry when I try :(

Try playing around with the brake curve to see if you can get a better feel.

And those talking about the SR system, it really is the lesser of two evils. Go join a public server on something like race07 and you'll see how much of a wreckfest it is. The SR system promotes a better driving standard but accident will still and always happen. It's just a part of racing
 
I don't agree sorry, maybe if you drive slower than the pace of the race then yeah, but if you are trying to compete with the rest of the field then there's just nothing that can be done if some one looses it right in front of you...

I disagree, the pace you're running doesn't matter, what does is when you notice that something is going wrong.

If you notice as they're spinning out then yes, it's likely too late to do anything.
But what about at the first twitch of their car, or even just observing their line through the corner and having an idea on how the car is going to react.
Or even at corner entry if they're going too quick, or even too slow.

It's observation, pure and simple. A car doesn't just snap out with no notice, in fact the class of accident where a guy spins in front of you I'd say there's always something you could've done differently. I was thinking more about the people that just screw up their braking and plough into the back of you, those are hard/impossible to avoid.

Also there's really no need, even when running quick laps, to be sat right on the gearbox of another car during the corner, assuming there isn't another car behind you you can brake that bit earlier, get a gap to help cope with anything that might happen, and more than make up that time on the exit/draft down the straight. At least until you know the other guys driving after a lap or two when you know better what speed he's capable of doing and how lairy his driving is.
 
you do make fair points skill I'll give you that, but still I do think there's is some accidents that can't be avoided.

maybe I need a few more races in the faster cars on this game to get a feel for what you are saying With it been my first proper sim coupled with the fact it's online aswell and not against AI...
 
The longer you spend driving at iRacing the better you get, i used to really struggle to avoid accidents and 1x, but now something has sort of clicked and my racing has really come on, ive only won 6 races ever, but i can keep it on the track and can sort of predict whats going to happen to the cars infront of me and can avoid anything they do. I have also ran in a hosted league as part of a team for the past 3 months with some of the top Corvette and Ford GT guys, and that has brought me racing on no end!

Come take a look at www.torquefreakracing.com
 
you do make fair points skill I'll give you that, but still I do think there's is some accidents that can't be avoided.

maybe I need a few more races in the faster cars on this game to get a feel for what you are saying With it been my first proper sim coupled with the fact it's online aswell and not against AI...

There are definitely accidents that you really can't avoid, but I do think they're in the minority.

Yep, it's all about seat time, not just in terms of pace, but being able to drive at pace almost as a background task, giving you more concentration to spend on observing other cars :)
 
As a novice driver, I would agree that seat time is important.

I have too many things to think about - lol

First corner:

Racing line
Speed
Gear changes
Other drivers

Nevermind driving the car :)
 
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