Is China on to something?

Tefal said:
Ok cool.

Doesn't really change anything though does it?

I mean it's an interesting explanation for why thiet numbers are so low but it doesn't change the outcome? So I'm not sure what you're tryinf to get at.

France and the UK deserve terrorist attacks because of thier colonial history?
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I'm just giving an indication of why there's such a variation in muslim populations in various countries. Ignoring history isn't going to help the understanding of demographics.

If you want to make stuff up based on that then that's your prerogative.
 
Tefal said:
Ok cool.

Doesn't really change anything though does it?

I mean it's an interesting explanation for why thiet numbers are so low but it doesn't change the outcome? So I'm not sure what you're tryinf to get at.

France and the UK deserve terrorist attacks because of thier colonial history?
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The irony is what China's doing now is effectively colonialism!
 
Dis86 said:
The irony is what China's doing now is effectively colonialism!
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No strings attached loans? Building your countries infrastructure?

For the small price of not accepting Taiwan as a separate entity, i'd take that deal and run. Of course China will eventually start landing troops in Africa when these deals turn into military expansion, but whatever, corrupt poopy bums aren't going to care about that and Africa has probably the most transparent corruption there is.

It's a race to recapture Africa and the West already lost decades ago, it's easy ******* growth for China at a vital turning point in their ascendancy.
 
China is too powerful. They can't gain any control there so it's pointless moaning. They're extremely vocal though when it's a weak country like the UK which bends over backwards trying not to offend their awful religion.
 
Dis86 said:
The irony is what China's doing now is effectively colonialism!
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They're currently considered the "good" colonisers, due to their lack of historical baggage. We shall see how long that lasts.

That said there's a whole world of difference between what China is doing now and what Europeans did in the 18/19th century.
 
Amp34 said:
They're currently considered the "good" colonisers, due to their lack of historical baggage. We shall see how long that lasts.

That said there's a whole world of difference between what China is doing now and what Europeans did in the 18/19th century.
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given the human rights issues in places like Tibet it's not that different.
 
StriderX said:
No strings attached loans? Building your countries infrastructure?

For the small price of not accepting Taiwan as a separate entity, i'd take that deal and run. Of course China will eventually start landing troops in Africa when these deals turn into military expansion, but whatever, corrupt poopy bums aren't going to care about that and Africa has probably the most transparent corruption there is.

It's a race to recapture Africa and the West already lost decades ago, it's easy ******* growth for China at a vital turning point in their ascendancy.
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The military are already there. I've had to deal with the results.

Uses to work for an oil company and we were carrying out surveying work on land we had a licence for. Kept coming across Chinese survey teams who had a full military escort and would block our teams or even confiscate their gear. Reported their presence to the local government who knew about them and basically told us 'tough luck' despite us having paid for the exclusive rights to the area.
 
i was just reading this morning about how the chinese are oppressing christians and bulldozing churches. The commie party see them as a real threat. They were supposedly on track to become the biggest christian nation.
 
Dis86 said:
The military are already there. I've had to deal with the results.

Uses to work for an oil company and we were carrying out surveying work on land we had a licence for. Kept coming across Chinese survey teams who had a full military escort and would block our teams or even confiscate their gear. Reported their presence to the local government who knew about them and basically told us 'tough luck' despite us having paid for the exclusive rights to the area.
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I mean don't some western teams have full escorts too? Admittedly it'd be the local military or PMC's but, i mean Oil is generally unsafe work (in Africa).
 
StriderX said:
I mean don't some western teams have full escorts too? Admittedly it'd be the local military or PMC's but, i mean Oil is generally unsafe work (in Africa).
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Yeah. Our guys did but these were Chinese army and were in areas they had no license to be in. They also had ifvs and much heavier weapons.
The armed guards are normally to prevent kidnap, not to annex an area.
 
Dis86 said:
Yeah. Our guys did but these were Chinese army and were in areas they had no license to be in. They also had ifvs and much heavier weapons.
The armed guards are normally to prevent kidnap, not to annex an area.
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Their license is the ability to strongarm in, if you can't defend what you own, then you don't own it. Kinda a basic rule of owning things tbh.
 
Should hire some Russian Mercs :p

But, it's only a matter of time before Africans kicks off about China being there. Clashes have already happened.
 
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Sutters said:
i was just reading this morning about how the chinese are oppressing christians and bulldozing churches. The commie party see them as a real threat. They were supposedly on track to become the biggest christian nation.
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Communist governments don't tolerate religion because they want the people to see government as the highest authority that everyone is subservient to and looks to for guidance.
 
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