Why would I be being sarcastic? Why are they not the same. A few car manuals I've read tell you the same, it's best to keep the car at around 80% charge max only go to 100% if you need to. But for best battery health 80% max, which to me suggests they're as short lived as mobile, laptop batteries.
Is the end of Battery EVs coming?
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My 2014 Leaf battery is still >80% of original capacity. I expect the battery and motor will outlive the normal car components around it, which will become uneconomical to repair at some point.
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So much fud in this thread about evs. Let alone the future of hydrogen in cars.
I'll check back in 10 years? That's the magical forecast for hydrogen by believers isn't it?
A few weeks ago I watched a circa 15 year old top gear rerun, James May dribbled over the Honda fcx clarity, belittling evs.
His tesla is nice..
5 years ago there were 15 hydrogen stations in blighty, how many now?
And only count the publicly accessible ones.
I'll check back in 10 years? That's the magical forecast for hydrogen by believers isn't it?
A few weeks ago I watched a circa 15 year old top gear rerun, James May dribbled over the Honda fcx clarity, belittling evs.
His tesla is nice..
5 years ago there were 15 hydrogen stations in blighty, how many now?
And only count the publicly accessible ones.
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then if you believe that you should not comment on the viability of EVs because it is objectively flat out wrong and even the slightest amount of research or talking to actual owners would tell you that a 4 year old EV wont have a 50% degraded battery (and if it did it is a fault and you would get replaced under the warranty - which in the case of my i3 and ipace is 8 years or 100,000 miles)
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I have a 2018 i3 and a 2020 jaguar ipace both essentially do the same range today as they did when new. maybe a few miles down (single digits) but not so much as i would notice.
yes it is considered good practice to not charge a car to 100% unless you need it (and not to leave it sat for weeks on end at 100%) but if you need the range then sure charge it. but even if you always charge to 100% it wont fail like you suggest (just look at plug in hybrids... they do need daily charging to 100% to get the most out of them).
but how is that any different from an ICE car which states things like "dont redline the car until the engine has warmed up and the oil is to temp" or "dont let the car run out of fuel as it can suck crap or air into the fuel line "and stuff like that.
its good practice but in reality the car wont break down tomorrow if you ignore it.
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How am I wrong? I asked a question, I didn't state anything.
Where did I say it would fail, quit putting words in my mouth.
All I asked was do the battery's degrade like they do in mobiles, and your getting all aggressive about it.
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How are you wrong? I dont know how to answer that. you said the evidence suggests car batteries are as short lived as mobile / laptop batteries. I can only say i have never seen evidence which suggests that.
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Oh, that's the human race isn't it
. There will always be those against some change and go to extremes and these days it's easy for anyone to go online to find lets call it 'evidence' to back their own belief/bias.As with all EV owners I'm sure, I've had to put loads of people right and try to educate others. Sometimes it makes people go away and think more, other times they just come up with other excuses like "Oh well, but I'd need a 1000 range on one charge" when you know their current car is lucky to do 300 miles on a tank and they rarely go beyond a 200 mile weekend away
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Love the comments from genetic anomalies that can drive 300 miles (6+hours) without needing a pee break, food, or a break to keep themselves and others safe and free from tiredness.
I suspect it's a form of willy waving. If you have to stop, you can use the time to put miles in the car.
I suspect it's a form of willy waving. If you have to stop, you can use the time to put miles in the car.
God im thankful for the ignore list. I can do without aggressive people like you
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i did once do a 6 hr slog from cambridge to newcastle without stopping... not only did i nearly wet myself and walked like john wayne when i eventually stopped and had to go to the loo...... i would hate to have had my reaction time tested at the end of that jaunt. looking back it was irresponsible to be honest.
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maybe you wont see this.. if not cest la vie however i apologise if i came over as too aggressive. I am just tired of the absolute tirade against not only EVs but renewable energy or just the insistence from some (not aimed at you) that its all some tree hugger conspiracy and that we dont really need to change. (I am far from perfect either )
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Even in my 'crappy' Ioniq that would have still be a non-issue, no sure why you'd be thanking **** for 185 miles.
Man of Honour
How many EV's have you had because according to the 'news' they all catch fire
Yes I do actually know the real figures.
More if you get somewhere busy and most of the chargers are knackered. Many have had the screens busted by local yobs too. No security like at a petrol station.
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Hmm thats just bad planning, the apps are pretty good at confirming if charge points are working or not.
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don’t engage with the troll. Peak trolling form
masher as he constructs sentences like a 10year old too.
masher as he constructs sentences like a 10year old too.
We realistically considered an iPace recently & whilst doing my normal trips in the months running up I paid attention to chargers at services etc, there were numerous occasions where none were free so I factored in that I may well have to sit & wait or even get back in the car & find another.
According to Zap maps the last site visit I did for work would have required 3 x 15-80% charges in an iPace. With the variables of "will I have to wait" & "will the charger be down" on top of a 40 min claimed charge time there are some potential massive travel time implications. 2 of the charges it planned are on the return leg. That site visit ran into some software issues meaning an hour install turned into 6 hours so I left the premises at 5:50pm followed by a 270 mile drive home. I don't want to be playing with those variables with a 270 mile drive out of Glasgow in rush hour, I just want to get home. Yeah, i could have have charged twice on the way there but it was late when I set off & i just wanted to get checked in & be done with it, not sit in a motorway services, can't stand the places.
Then we had the trip at Xmas to the "Polar Express", we didn't stop either way, just drove there, parked in a muddy car park in -7 temperatures & drove straight home a few hours later. The wife had been using the car all day & then we went at 2pm, that would have needed a charge on the way back, stuff that faff about.
In the end, instead of an iPace I bought a Jaguar XE & a Peugeot 3008.
Hydrogen is something I could easily live with but pure EV, i think i'd realistically need either a 700+ mile range or the ability to charge in under 10 mins. I don't think i'd have the patience for an EV.
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Is your patience valued in time or money? Or both?
It's based on the situation, mostly time. I value my spare time more than money, i have enough money to be comfortable, time not so much.