Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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yes and US were very clear that their enemy was the pro Saddam zealots and insurgents, but that didn't stop them using depleted uranium shells on civillians in Fallujah.................

Depleted uranium is a kinetic based ammo, its not for use against civilians, its to use against armored vehicles/tanks.
 
it's a simple case of if it's brown burn it down..................... it's just most of the pound shop enochs on this forum are pretty bad at hiding it.
If if was the Jews going around beheading babies, setting them on fire killing and raping women and innocent people then we'd be on the side of the 'brown people'.

People like you that bring some sort of racism angle in to it are ******* pathetic.
 
Israel needs to review its border security policies, it is clear that there are deficiencies and they need to address them. I was a bit shocked at what Hamas was able to do. Israel easily has the capability to defend against this level of attack, but it was not present on the ground where it was needed.

Bombing Gaza is just going to create misery and suffering to the majority of innocent people that live there and help with radicalization. It will achieve nothing. It would not address the reasons a small minority of people in Gaza turn to violence. Israel has the ability to protect its borders better and it should focus on that, there is no need to respond by killing more innocent civilians.

That addressed nothing.
 
I love these threads, so many people with no combat experience saying how a military should carry out this task.

My favourite take so far has been sending troops into a urban environment, with a mostly hostile population hiding combatants not wearing uniform. I can't think of a better way to get troops killed that walking slowly towards a machine gun brandishing a stick.

Israel has the range advantage in air, artillery and recon. They'll just sit back and level targets until there's no left. Hamas is out gunned and out matched in every quarter, if they don't surrender they are deadmen at the whims of the Israelis.
 
'Eliminating Hamas' is itself impossible. These barbarians will retreat back to their dusty holes and disguise themselves as 'innocent' civilians until it's safe to come out and murder more babies.

Incidentally I wonder how Cyprus holiday bookings are doing. I wouldn't fancy it at the moment.
 
They were voted in man - what are you on about?

By a slim majority over Fatah and there was a subsequent civil war fought. Fatah recognises Israel and its main aims were to achieve independence through negotiations.

So a significant proportion of Palestinians are not and should not be confused with Hamas.
 
By a slim majority over Fatah and there was a subsequent civil war fought. Fatah recognises Israel and its main aims were to achieve independence through negotiations.

So a significant proportion of Palestinians are not and should not be confused with Hamas.

2006 was a long time ago - where has been the active resistance from these Palestnians who don't want Hamas rule? Why did they fall on the sword like Hitler's Reich if a signifcant proportion didn't support them? It would take one call to Israel for the opposition to open talks to take them out so they could take over and go through peace talks - espsically when Israel's inteligence was much stronger.
 
I love these threads, so many people with no combat experience saying how a military should carry out this task.

My favourite take so far has been sending troops into a urban environment, with a mostly hostile population hiding combatants not wearing uniform. I can't think of a better way to get troops killed that walking slowly towards a machine gun brandishing a stick.

Israel has the range advantage in air, artillery and recon. They'll just sit back and level targets until there's no left. Hamas is out gunned and out matched in every quarter, if they don't surrender they are deadmen at the whims of the Israelis.
I mean i get what you're saying but should people not ever comment on something they havent done. I havent played professional football either, should i not comment on that?

Instead of being offended, reply, state your experience and educate.
 
2006 was a long time ago - where has been the active resistance from these Palestnians who don't want Hamas rule? Why did they fall on the sword like Hitler's Reich if a signifcant proportion didn't support them? It would take one call to Israel for the opposition to open talks to take them out so they could take over and go through peace talks - espsically when Israel's inteligence was much stronger.

What a load of nonsense. You are declaring that every Palestinian is a member of, or a supporter of Hamas. 2006 might feel like a long time ago but Fatah still has their supporters. Even if it’s only 20% it’s a significant number. To arbitrarily declare with zero proof that every Palestinian is Hamas is utterly idiotic.
 
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I mean i get what you're saying but should people not ever comment on something they havent done. I havent played professional football either, should i not comment on that?

Instead of being offended, reply, state your experience and educate.
The irony is, most of these military experts are normally RAF ground crew or something. lol.
 
What a load of nonsense. You are declaring that every Palestinian is a member of, or a supporter of Hamas. 2006 might feel like a long time ago but Fatah still has their supporters. To arbitrarily declare with zero proof that every Palestinian is Hamas is utterly idiotic.

Yet you offer zero proof on how a 'siginifcant proportion' didn't support them. Do you plan on offering any or just go round in circles? No government stays in power for 17 years without the support of the people - that's a ridiculous notion. Surely such people existed in some capacity to report the nature of the training exercises being conducted? Surely they knew an attack like that, if succesful would effectively be the end of the place they call home? Why hasn't there been any more attempts by Fatah to seize power by force, again if they were more open to neogitations than Hamas ever was than Israel would gladly support them.
 
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