Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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darkgen said:
Assess the moderates, temporary house them in Israel / west bank, build permanent communities and provide land, opportunities and ensure universal citizenship. Demolish Gaza, rebuild and integrate. Engage and empower the PA to actually work for its people and promote integration. If the Arab states want to positively contribute / assist / take on-board any refugees created; Great.

Now time for my morning coffee, as I clearly need to wake up!
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Having solved the Middle east before lunch, you are entitled
 
darkgen said:
Assess the moderates, temporary house them in Israel / west bank, build permanent communities and provide land, opportunities and ensure universal citizenship. Demolish Gaza, rebuild and integrate. Engage and empower the PA to actually work for its people and promote integration. If the Arab states want to positively contribute / assist / take on-board any refugees created; Great.

Now time for my morning coffee, as I clearly need to wake up!
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It would be lovely if that was possible.

Not having a go at you at all- in any sort of sane world, it would absolutely be the way to go.
 
potatolord said:
It would be lovely if that was possible.

Not having a go at you at all- in any sort of sane world, it would absolutely be the way to go.
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Well; all typed with a wry smile.

I accept the reality of pure violence for forever and a day though. Thoroughly depressing; I prefer my mornings started with fantasy before the brick-wall of coherency hits me!
 
darkgen said:
Assess the moderates, temporary house them in Israel / west bank, build permanent communities and provide land, opportunities and ensure universal citizenship. Demolish Gaza, rebuild and integrate. Engage and empower the PA to actually work for its people and promote integration. If the Arab states want to positively contribute / assist / take on-board any refugees created; Great.

Now time for my morning coffee, as I clearly need to wake up!
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Now do Taiwan!
 
BUDFORCE said:
I mean, it all depends on the circumstances like anything.

But I walked around Hendon in north west London flying a Swazita and chanting "gas the jews" I would hope to get arrested pretty quickly.
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There's no need to invent such a ridiculous scenario, the first paragraph of the article covers the circumstances.

Waving a Palestinian flag or singing a chant advocating freedom for Arabs in the region may be a criminal offence, Suella Braverman has told senior police officers
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www.theguardian.com

Waving Palestinian flag may be a criminal offence, Braverman tells police

Home secretary also suggests clampdown on pro-Arab chants in letter that will concern free speech advocates
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

It's my opinion that we have a very strange culture where we leap to immediately support utterly ridiculous restrictions on our freedom of expression. It's driven by emotion that we, as a nation, seem to think is ok to project onto everyone, based purely on what we saw on TV in the last 24hrs. The queen's death was another prime example of this.

"This event makes me sad, and it should make you equally sad. If you don't comply with my emotions then I will find some law to beat you with."

We are not the free democracy that we like to think we are.
 
Hagar said:
Let's start with Israel not Isreal. It hurts my eyes. Comparison with the IRA is not valid as most events were aimed at killing the security services not the general public although there were exceptions Enniskillen etc. Most were pre warned by coded message. None were by suicide .

Don't get me wrong, the IRA were awful, murdering ***** as we're the UDA and the other paramilitary organisations on all sides. They weren't touched by god though nominally religious mainly political.

HAMAS are, llke ISIS they believe that if you are not the same religion you can be burnt, thrown of buildings, shot beheaded etc. There is no choice in the matter.

So HAMAS must be destroyed like ISIS or hugely depleted. An objective is the minimalisation of civilian casualties but there will be quite a few. It is that type of warfare. One day when we don't allow religion to burn our minds we may be able to stop doing this.
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The reason we didn't go full Israel on the IRA is because whenever we killed them they went crying to the Americans so we had our hands tied behind our backs.
 
Uther said:
If you watch the videos the strikes look fairly targeted to me, with huge areas not touched.
Have you criticised Hamas at all? I know you are very much 'those poor Russians' in the Ukraine thread...
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In the majority of videos, given Gaza is amoungst most densely populated city on the planet, no those strikes are not well atrgetted at all.

Have you heard of the King David Hotel?
 
Harlequin said:
In the majority of videos, given Gaza is amoungst most densely populated city on the planet, no those strikes are not well atrgetted at all.

Have you heard of the King David Hotel?
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And the critisism of Hamas for the attack?
Crickets...
 
Dirk Diggler said:
It's my opinion that we have a very strange culture where we leap to immediately support utterly ridiculous restrictions on our freedom of expression. It's driven by emotion that we, as a nation, seem to think is ok to project onto everyone, based purely on what we saw on TV in the last 24hrs. The queen's death was another prime example of this.

"This event makes me sad, and it should make you equally sad. If you don't comply with my emotions then I will find some law to beat you with."

We are not the free democracy that we like to think we are.
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Be nice if true, we would not have to cater for misgendering or accepting that all immigration is great for the country etc. etc.
 
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