I'd like to see that kid try to charge that. An L111 isn't exactly the easiest gun to unlock.
Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Just leaving this here
Nothing wrong with uzi, good fun. Tried a MP5 suppressed recently which was surprisingly quiet.
It's nowhere near the same thing so just posting that photo in response made very little sense.
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Sorry, can't post. Busy digging a hole in the back garden for my shelter.
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Well someone in Hamas clearly has got bored of life ,as in about a week's time they will pretty much not exist as an (terrorist)organisation as they'll all be dead.
If there is no religion and no God then you have no moral authority over me, as I don't over you. So for example why should you follow principles of others when you don't agree with it? Unlike today you would have no bond with the people making up the rules, so rebellion would be more likely in my view.
I was going to write more but I don't want to go off topic to much.
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Time to duck and cover people.
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You know, that's exactly what I thought when I saw those guys dancing on the burning Israeli tank. Enjoy yourself boys, cus soon it might seem like a really bad idea.
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Muslims don't fear death. This earthly world is just part of the journey
I am sure Israel are terrified of the one T-34 Russia have left back home that they can use elsewhere...
I'm not so confident that eliminating Hamas will solve anything. After all Fatah were involved in the Second Intifada. It will always be Palestine vs Israel.
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Unfortunately tend to agree. Lets be clear, neither side is clear of blame or bad action at some point in history, Israel has made some very bad decisions and has definately pushed a victim complex on multiple occasions (both sides have), but the recent brutal attacks by Hamas against civilians; women and children, are beyond militancy or justified, they are just raw barbarism, hatred and terrorism. All Hamas have done is set the cause of the Palestinian people back decades. Most of the Israeli's I know just want to get on with thier lives, they don't want to have to fight, and I very much suspect that is all most civilians amongst the Palestinians want also. What is going on now is sheer result of generational hatred and ego/power, it is not religion, it is not cause, it is just brainwashed hatred and terrorism. What harm did babies or a music festival pose to Hamas. None. I don't even 100% blame the brainwashed monsters who actually attacked, as ultimately they were brainwashed, riled up, and turned into what they are by others. The leader of Hamas is not even IN Gaza, he is in Qatar. They are cowards using the generational hatred and the influencable/weak minded to achieve thier own goals, and maintain thier own power.
Unfortunately Hamas is quite willing and happy to hide amongst the Palestinian people, to use them as human shields, because ultimately they do not care about the Palestinian people EITHER, all of it is ego, hatreds and power; they will not negotiate or try to co-exist with Israel, they make that very clear, and by attacking Israel like this they have just given the powers that be in Israel all excuse/justificiation depending on your point of view, to go in and try and root this out once and for all. If they cared about the Palestinian people, they'd be operating out of military compounds, but no, they fire out of civilian facilities and residential zones, simply to try and use any ensuing retaliation as more propaganda and to feed the hatred that keeps them in power. The Israeli's I know are quite supportive of the concept of 2 state, they fundamentally just want to get on with thier lives and be left alone. Hamas does not want or believe that, and make it quite clear they won't he happy until Israel no longer exists. There can be no lasting peace with people like that in charge, regardless of what justification they try to give (creed/colour/ethnicity/religion), they are a stain on the modern era, and the vast reason that most Palestinian people put up with them is a combination of no alternative, and if they are not seen to toe the line/support them, they become the target (see Iran/Afghanistan). Extremist governments have no place in the modern world.
I have also heard from the ground that quite some level of Islamic State paraphanalia has been found on the killed/caputred terrorists, not something confirmed or admitted in western media as far as I've seen, which also explains another reason why the US has sent a fair amount of military capacity closer to the region. There is more going on here than the international public are fully aware of.
I just hope it is over sooner rather than later, so the civilians can go back to thier lives, on both sides, without fear of terrorism.
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There was an Iranian delegate about to land, so that's why they attacked the airport, supposedly the aircraft had munitions onboard for the terrorists
I understand why, but I do find it laughable how the international community just turns a blind eye to Israel attacking another sovereign state in the region with only tenuous links to Hamas
Israel regularly attacks targets in Syria and the airport, Russia like everyone else, turns a blind eye to it despite alliance with Syria
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Don't blame them, at least they'll have a chance when some knife weilding savage breaks in to decapitate them or burn them alive.Just leaving this here
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That's the most telling thing.
Any other place in the world, would negotiate to allow the safe passage of the women and children.
And it's also telling that none of the Palestinian allies have mentioned that either.
I don't think they do turn a blind eye, and I think that Israel only has the moral high ground today. Tomorrow is a different story. Not that Israel actually cares.
And the us backed freedom fighters will take advantage.
The syrian army is the off cuts of the russian army, as weve seen the kit is next to useless in current warfare.
I just hope this spells the end for Netanyahu.
If Israel had wanted to 'wipe out Palestine', she would have done it decades ago. The Israelis voted for a two state solution in 1947, remember? The Arabs rejected it. Israel has never shown any indication that she wishes to 'wipe out Palestine.'
Hamas' own founding document approvingly quotes Muslim Brotherhood founder Imam Hassan al-Banna saying, 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.'
The same document states that Hamas is utterly opposed to peace plans and similar proposals, and claims that the 'plan' of 'world ZIonism' is clearly detailed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a well known anti-semitic fraud from the early 20th century.
How exactly do we stop Israel retaliating?
Countries break international law all the time. The trick is to break laws that are difficult to enforce and punish. Countries that have repeatedly broken international law without repercussions in recent decades include:
* US
* UK
* Australia
* Israel
* Russia
* Syria (& pretty much every other Arab nation)
* most African nations
The list is endless. You don't need to be powerful to break international law and get away with it. You just need to have the circumstances on your side.
If Israel had wanted to 'wipe out Palestine', she would have done it decades ago. The Israelis voted for a two state solution in 1947, remember? The Arabs rejected it. Israel has never shown any indication that she wishes to 'wipe out Palestine.'
Hamas' own founding document approvingly quotes Muslim Brotherhood founder Imam Hassan al-Banna saying, 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.'
The same document states that Hamas is utterly opposed to peace plans and similar proposals, and claims that the 'plan' of 'world ZIonism' is clearly detailed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a well known anti-semitic fraud from the early 20th century.
How exactly do we stop Israel retaliating?
Countries break international law all the time. The trick is to break laws that are difficult to enforce and punish. Countries that have repeatedly broken international law without repercussions in recent decades include:
* US
* UK
* Australia
* Israel
* Russia
* Syria (& pretty much every other Arab nation)
* most African nations
The list is endless. You don't need to be powerful to break international law and get away with it. You just need to have the circumstances on your side.
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Definitely looks like something is brewing. We're all making assumptions based on only part of the information. I'm quite sure the US government have a better idea of what is happening behind the scenes hence two carrier strike groups. When was the last time you saw them do that?
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